Ancient Macedonia and Ancient Macedonian Language.
Ancient Macedonia and Ancient Macedonian Language.
george ANCIENT MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE. Guys Just do me a favor and check out this site about the Ancient Macedonian language. It says quite a lot and it is really good. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Macedonian_language
dejan Yeah shitipedia is the worse possible source you could use. I suggest you go to this forum http://www.maknews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=315 Go through the pages, you'll be surprised what you read... For example, 'Stagira' where Aristotle was born is closely related to Macedonia modern 'Stara gora' adding 'ra' and replacing the 'i' with 'o' which means 'old mound' Odyssey in Macedonian would be Odiseja, which is very close to 'Odisi' which also happens to mean to go somewhere. Just go through those pages please.
george No offence dejan. But common,am I gonna screw the archaeologists, the proffessional historians and experts just to go to a silly little forum full of teenagers and beurocratic propaganda who probably have made up everything they are saying. I mean it cant get any more silly than that. Wikipedia is an excellent source of knowledge, it has absolutely anything and at a great detail. What I really think is that you are quick to discard the web-site I gave you just because it doesnt say what you want to hear. And about what you said. You are only prooving that Greek had a great cultural impact on Slavic. Touche mate. Wait for more info about Macedonians.
george KALASH TRIBES- TRUE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS IN NORTHERN PAKISTAN. In northern Pakistan there are tribes called Kalash. These people are directly linked to ancient Macedonians. They still believe on the 12 gods of Olympus(The names have changed a bit through time though), they remember Alexander and their last ever ruler Seleucus. Now about their language. These people speak ancient Dorian (ancient Macedonia's dialect) with some Persian in it. You want to know if you really are Macedonian? Go and ask the real Macedonians. Here is the web-site: http://www.dawn.com/2005/06/23/int7.htm Here are some pictures: [img]http://perso.wanadoo.fr/voyages-aventures/Kalash/Kalash-groupe_femme_.JPG[/img] Blonde with blue eyes. These people are clearly not Pakistani. [img]http://www.khyberwatch.com/kalash/PIC00403.JPG[/img] [img]http://www.indiamike.com/photopost/data/508/6271blondie.jpg[/img]
f9 Wikipedija it is not a profesional web side or anything like that.Everyone can contribute on the text on that web side. For the content...mostly is dwelling on " Corpus Lexicographorum Graecorum -Hesychius of Alexandria " from 15 century Marcus Musurus work.http://www.csad.ox.ac.uk/CSAD/Hesychius/Omicron-pi.jpg Work of 15 century renesanse writers who some how have found secred knowledge from Alexandrian library can and must be seen like profitable greek busines,and not at all primary or secundary source in history of humanity.
OooOo
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Originally posted by george
[img]http://www.indiamike.com/photopost/data/508/6271blondie.jpg[/img]
Does this girl looks like anything greek????? Honestly??? C'mon dude ... don't make me laugh ... Typical greek man/women: small, fat, dark skin, ugly ...
george Yeah, I just realized too that anyone can write stuff in Wikipedia. Absolutely bullocks. Gotta find a new source for info. So annoying. Whos gonna use a encyclopedia which can be edited by any common fool. Honest mistake on that. Thanks for pointing that out.
Great_Macedonian george i dont know if your sarcastic or not, but wikipedia is always edited by whoever dislikes a certain source within it. Last year i went to wikipedia and typed in 'macedonians'..... wikipedia calls macedonians "macedonian slavs", howether, it stated that "macedonian slavs" are descendants of ancient macedonian, thracian, illyrian and slavic tribes. Two months later i went back to the same site and the part which said '..are descendants of ancient macedonian....' was changed with "..are descendants of bulgar, thracian etc...." I swear on my mothers life i am telling the truth, i saw it with my own eyes how this sentence was changed!! Why do you think this was the case? because some greek or bulgarian was bothered by the fact that modern macedonians have more or less ancient macedonian descent.
Great_Macedonian One more thing george, whoever thinks that the KALASH people are an identical ethnic group to any modern balkan nationality is kidding themselves!!! Just think of how many tribes have come and gone throughout the southern balkans in the past 2thousand years... do you really thinkt that the kalash have much in common with modern greeks or modern macedonians???? i dont think they have much in common with any of us.
george To reply on this: Does this girl looks like anything greek????? Honestly??? C'mon dude ... don't make me laugh ... Typical greek man/women: small, fat, dark skin, ugly ... ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Does she look ugly to you. Go assemble your head back on mate. http://www.gwool.com/li-9644/li23.jpg Greeks are not dark, the are just not blonde and stupid. They are quite big, at least the newer better fed generation. And we are quite a handsome race. Now enough of bullshit. During the ancient times, the Dorians (Spartans, Macedonians, etc) were blonde. The Athenians were a little bit darker ( but not dark = muslim dark Asian). To reply to Great Macedonian Now about the Kalash. It has been 2,3 thousand years. These people were very isolated there since nobody could come in and out during the winter and they had tall mountains around the valley they were living. Total isolation. It is not the lighter complections that matters (Although it helps), it is their Greek culture and ancient Greek religion. I mean I read an article that said that these people still celebrate the ancient Dionysus festival. It is remarkable also that people living in such isolation even know about Alexander and their last ruler Seleucus. They are true ancient Macedonians.
Homer MakeDonski Hi george talking about Macedonians from the ancient times,it is one question what I would like to read your opinion for What ,do you think use to be theirs religion ?
Great_Macedonian George.. that girl needs a shower. Ive read sites that claim bulgarians visited the kalash? why is that? even they think they are decsendants of them. As for the greek lobby groups.. your lucky they are the second most powerfull after the jewish lobby... if they were as week as our macedonian lobby, many things would not be in your favor. Ive read about how much greek organisations visit the kalash.. so much that the kalash are getting sick of it. Why are they even called kalash? do they call themselves greeks? i doubt it. By the way, alexander's are was made up of some 25thousand macedonians and 8thousand greeks (somthing like that).. ive read this in western books!... alexanders army also had illyrian and thracian people in it. So i think that its only obvious that these kalash people are a mixture of every ancient balkan tribe. To claim them as solely greek is a joke.
OooOo [quote]Originally posted by george
Does she look ugly to you. Go assemble your head back on mate. http://www.gwool.com/li-9644/li23.jpg[/img] Here and there you'll find some OK looking ... I guess ONE in a MILLION. [;)]
george @OooOo I see you like her! You want another picture of her? P.S. mate, men all over Europe abandon their lives and families to follow a Greek girl in Greece. I've seen it thousands of times. Our ladies can rock your boat. Just because you're desparate, I'll post another picture of her for you. http://www.gwool.com/li-9644/li48.jpg _____________________________________________________________________________________________- Now back to the talk with serious people. @Great Macedonia. About the girl. I like em dirty. [:)] About the historical stuff. Mate, you keep reverting from the fact. These people speak ancient Doric Greek. That means that they went there somehow. From what I know Thracians were not hellenised. Basically these people must have been probably the last people of the Eastern Macedonian kingdom of Bactria. I've read also an article that states that there is also a Macedonian fort with round towers near the location of their settlements. I'll try to find it so I can post it. They do not call themselves Greeks. There are many tribes of them, one of them is called kalash. We did not name them per se. They themselves call themselves kalash. But they speak doric, they believe in the 12 gods of Olympus and they do all kinds of funny ancient festivals. They remember alexander. They are Macedonians, guys!
george Can someone post me a nice picture of Skopje. Those in the internet suck bit time. Thanks.
toni_a veshtacki baloni kaj devojkava...me asocira na grcija...
OooOo
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Originally posted by george
Just because you're desparate...
Desparate?? Look who's posting pictures [:D][:D][:D]
george I am only trying to proove you wrong mate. But you are the one in Jamaica stuck with the fat black ass. I am in Greece, and I am enjoying the fruits of nature. There is one thing that Greek women dont need. And that is a boob job.
OooOo Calling me desperate and posting pictures of greek woman doesn't prove anything. Been to greece many times. Seen ugly greek men and women many times. Stop playing stupid and look around, no offense but you are an ugly nation. [;)] [EOD]
dejan You are sick.
OooOo Who's sick?
wolf_pack When I was in greece the only women I stared at was the Scandinavian tourists and the naked german n russian girls:))) greek women were kinda hairy and short, bljak da i ebam plemeto[:D] Poarno ke gledam native african women in the safari then "hellenic" princesses[:D]
dejan George is OooOo... Bas taka Wolf:D
Great_Macedonian I like this guy... George.. apart from the fact that we has opposing views, atleast he can talk civilised... unban him OooOo, its not every day i get the 'pleasure' of having a civilised debate with a greek.
OooOo It's up to DJ_Shema, I didn't ban him.
dejan I'm sick.
mnik
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Originally posted by dejan
I'm sick.
bit late but read this:[:D] [url]http://www.prah.net/europaveneta/augustan/updateonveneti.htm[/url]
Russell Foster
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Originally posted by george
To reply on this: Does this girl looks like anything greek????? Honestly??? C'mon dude ... don't make me laugh ... Typical greek man/women: small, fat, dark skin, ugly ... ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Does she look ugly to you. Go assemble your head back on mate. http://www.gwool.com/li-9644/li23.jpg Greeks are not dark, the are just not blonde and stupid. They are quite big, at least the newer better fed generation. And we are quite a handsome race. Now enough of bullshit. During the ancient times, the Dorians (Spartans, Macedonians, etc) were blonde. The Athenians were a little bit darker ( but not dark = muslim dark Asian). To reply to Great Macedonian Now about the Kalash. It has been 2,3 thousand years. These people were very isolated there since nobody could come in and out during the winter and they had tall mountains around the valley they were living. Total isolation. It is not the lighter complections that matters (Although it helps), it is their Greek culture and ancient Greek religion. I mean I read an article that said that these people still celebrate the ancient Dionysus festival. It is remarkable also that people living in such isolation even know about Alexander and their last ruler Seleucus. They are true ancient Macedonians.
Hey People, Heads up on the lady in the picture!(I see that the site also tends to the entertainment of it's posters.)I'll be sticking around more. Wiki who?wiki what? I don't know about everybody else here but I'm never gonna consider info from the "Wik" as a "reference".The Great Mac is on the ball on this one.Don't mix history and the Wik or we'll end up with a cartoon. Hey George, You've got good taste in women but your willingness to accept the "Greekness" of the Kalash without enough information is nationalistic at heart.(wouldn't expect anything less from a Greek,Italian,Spaniard , or French).Do you realise this? Athenians were darker than Dorians??/ Athenians were not a tribe like the Dorians!!! Maybe you meant the Ionians were darker than the Dorians.You would have sounded amateur as opposed to illiterate. Keep cool!
Daniel Glenn Hey People, Heads up on the lady in the picture!(I see that the site also tends to the entertainment of it's posters.)I'll be sticking around more. Wiki who?wiki what? I don't know about everybody else here but I'm never gonna consider info from the "Wik" as a "reference".The Great Mac is on the ball on this one.Don't mix history and the Wik or we'll end up with a cartoon. Hey George, You've got good taste in women but your willingness to accept the "Greekness" of the Kalash without enough information is nationalistic at heart.(wouldn't expect anything less from a Greek,Italian,Spaniard , or French).Do you realise this? Athenians were darker than Dorians??/ Athenians were not a tribe like the Dorians!!! Maybe you meant the Ionians were darker than the Dorians.You would have sounded amateur as opposed to illiterate. Keep cool! [/quote] Dear Russell, It's a pleasure to find a fellow Amercian on board! I can't claim a long lived presence in this forum but from what I've seen thus far it would be wise to enjoy the pictures.The historical content exchanged here is an expresion of mediocrity at best.(refering to your ancient cities request). Where about are you from? Best regards and welcome. Daniel.
Jakov Daniel Glenn i Russel Foster, vie ste bliznaci ili mislite deka sme nie nepismeni.????