Olympic torch made in macedonia
Olympic torch made in macedonia
graf "'Because of the Conflict with Macedonia's Name, Only Sign of Manufacturer will be on Torch. The Olympic torch was made in the Kumanovo-based firm "Iskra Engineering". " MADE IN MACEDONIA !!!! [:D]
dejan lele gadovi grci. Ajde svetot neka znae kade e Kumanovo:p
Pina
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Originally posted by graf
"'Because of the Conflict with Macedonia's Name, Only Sign of Manufacturer will be on Torch. The Olympic torch was made in the Kumanovo-based firm "Iskra Engineering". " MADE IN MACEDONIA !!!! [:D]
And how do you know the reason why it is so? Did any Greek official said it is beacuse of the "Conflict"? Or you just know. We should be pleased that the Greeks hired macedonian firm to do the job. If they were thinking politics ( by the way, they dont give a shit about the "Conflict", they wouldn't have hired macedonian firm for that matter. And I think that on the torch shoudn't be a name of any country, to follow the spirit of the Oyimpics. Greeks take a great pride of the Olympics... Aj da ne ve maltretiram so mojov losh angliski.
Thunder from down under
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Originally posted by Pina
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Originally posted by graf
"'Because of the Conflict with Macedonia's Name, Only Sign of Manufacturer will be on Torch. The Olympic torch was made in the Kumanovo-based firm "Iskra Engineering". " MADE IN MACEDONIA !!!! [:D]
And how do you know the reason why it is so? Did any Greek official said it is beacuse of the "Conflict"? Or you just know. We should be pleased that the Greeks hired macedonian firm to do the job. If they were thinking politics ( by the way, they dont give a shit about the "Conflict", they wouldn't have hired macedonian firm for that matter. And I think that on the torch shoudn't be a name of any country, to follow the spirit of the Oyimpics. Greeks take a great pride of the Olympics... Aj da ne ve maltretiram so mojov losh angliski.
sve sho e napraeno mora da se znae kade e napraeno,toa e3 internacionalno pravilo i e nezakonski ako se prekrshi, da ne e napishano imeto na zemjata greeks take a great pride in they long homosexual history and propaganda against republic of macedonia
dejan
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Originally posted by Pina
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Originally posted by graf
"'Because of the Conflict with Macedonia's Name, Only Sign of Manufacturer will be on Torch. The Olympic torch was made in the Kumanovo-based firm "Iskra Engineering". " MADE IN MACEDONIA !!!! [:D]
And how do you know the reason why it is so? Did any Greek official said it is beacuse of the "Conflict"? Or you just know. We should be pleased that the Greeks hired macedonian firm to do the job. If they were thinking politics ( by the way, they dont give a shit about the "Conflict", they wouldn't have hired macedonian firm for that matter. And I think that on the torch shoudn't be a name of any country, to follow the spirit of the Oyimpics. Greeks take a great pride of the Olympics... Aj da ne ve maltretiram so mojov losh angliski.
It is obvious why they wouldn't put 'Macedonia' because of the name conflict. I'm sure they also take a great pride in their interbreeding.
AaaAa
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Originally posted by Pina
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Originally posted by graf
"'Because of the Conflict with Macedonia's Name, Only Sign of Manufacturer will be on Torch. The Olympic torch was made in the Kumanovo-based firm "Iskra Engineering". " MADE IN MACEDONIA !!!! [:D]
And how do you know the reason why it is so? Did any Greek official said it is beacuse of the "Conflict"? Or you just know. We should be pleased that the Greeks hired macedonian firm to do the job. If they were thinking politics ( by the way, they dont give a shit about the "Conflict", they wouldn't have hired macedonian firm for that matter. And I think that on the torch shoudn't be a name of any country, to follow the spirit of the Oyimpics. Greeks take a great pride of the Olympics... Aj da ne ve maltretiram so mojov losh angliski.
"In the spirit of the Olympic games." ???? Which is a competition among the World Countries? Where everyone gets dressed up in jerseys representing the colors of their country. Where everyone marches at the opening with their flag and the name of their country? The spirit is that we all act as one, but it does not erase the differences, rather it endorses and points them out. You are representing your country and if you do so only with making that torch you should be recognized for it as a country. The only reason Macedonia is not is because of the name disagreement. If it was any other country I am sure that was going to be pointed out more than not. I am curious as to see how we are going to be announced at the opening, I am sure Macedonia would not fly. Maybe that is because of the Olympic games spirit too? If there is someone to be grateful for making that torch it is the Greeks, cause I am sure we charged them a lot less than anyone else would and with the speed and quality they are organizing these games I am sure it would be one of the rare bright accomplishments.
Thunder from down under razbra sega pina ? :)
Pina
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Originally posted by Thunder from down under
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Originally posted by Pina
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Originally posted by graf
"'Because of the Conflict with Macedonia's Name, Only Sign of Manufacturer will be on Torch. The Olympic torch was made in the Kumanovo-based firm "Iskra Engineering". " MADE IN MACEDONIA !!!! [:D]
And how do you know the reason why it is so? Did any Greek official said it is beacuse of the "Conflict"? Or you just know. We should be pleased that the Greeks hired macedonian firm to do the job. If they were thinking politics ( by the way, they dont give a shit about the "Conflict", they wouldn't have hired macedonian firm for that matter. And I think that on the torch shoudn't be a name of any country, to follow the spirit of the Oyimpics. Greeks take a great pride of the Olympics... Aj da ne ve maltretiram so mojov losh angliski.
sve sho e napraeno mora da se znae kade e napraeno,toa e3 internacionalno pravilo i e nezakonski ako se prekrshi, da ne e napishano imeto na zemjata greeks take a great pride in they long homosexual history and propaganda against republic of macedonia
Nikade ne postoi toa pravilo/zakon na se da se stava "made in".
Thunder from down under izgleda nemash slushnato za rules and regulations of products labeling act od 1939 godina taka super ke beshe ke otvorev edna fabrika vo taiwan i ke im recev da pisat made in australia i namesto $1 jas po $25 ke go prodavav
Pina
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Originally posted by Thunder from down under
razbra sega pina ? :)
Nema jas shto da razberam, meshate babi i zhabi. Koga veke tolku manipulirate okolu ovaa rabota vo stilot, znam, siguren sum, itn... ajde proverete dali na dosegashnite olimpijadi na fakelite stoeshe imeto na drzhavata kade se izraboteni, toa barem lesno mozhe da se proveri. I shto ako e obichaj ili pravilo da ne se graviraat iminja na drzhavi? Dali nekoj od vas ke si reche: Navistina mnogu politizirame, vo se gledame politika i preteruvame. Sigurno deka ne. E toa e problemot so nas. Od druga strana pak, ako Grchkiot Olimpiski Komitet ne dozvolil da stoi imeto Makedonija na fakelot, zoshto Iskra Engineering ja prifati ponudata da go izraboti fakelot, ili barem da protestiraa kaj MOK, just for the record. Zarem Grcite ne mozhea da angazhiraat firma od nekoja druga drzhava za taa rabota? Pa ke beshe i volkot sit i ovcite na broj.
AaaAa
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Originally posted by Pina
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Originally posted by Thunder from down under
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Originally posted by Pina
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Originally posted by graf
"'Because of the Conflict with Macedonia's Name, Only Sign of Manufacturer will be on Torch. The Olympic torch was made in the Kumanovo-based firm "Iskra Engineering". " MADE IN MACEDONIA !!!! [:D]
And how do you know the reason why it is so? Did any Greek official said it is beacuse of the "Conflict"? Or you just know. We should be pleased that the Greeks hired macedonian firm to do the job. If they were thinking politics ( by the way, they dont give a shit about the "Conflict", they wouldn't have hired macedonian firm for that matter. And I think that on the torch shoudn't be a name of any country, to follow the spirit of the Oyimpics. Greeks take a great pride of the Olympics... Aj da ne ve maltretiram so mojov losh angliski.
sve sho e napraeno mora da se znae kade e napraeno,toa e3 internacionalno pravilo i e nezakonski ako se prekrshi, da ne e napishano imeto na zemjata greeks take a great pride in they long homosexual history and propaganda against republic of macedonia
Nikade ne postoi toa pravilo/zakon na se da se stava "made in".
Ne samo shto generalno na sekoj product mora da stoi kade e proizveden, olimpiskite igri se uste po specificni. Amerikancite ke ja menuvaat cela garderoba koja e vekje proizvedena za timot zatoa shto nekoj aslak ja naprail u Burma ili neznam kade a ne u USA. Iako vo USA se e made in somewhere else, za olimpiskite igri toa ne e prifatlivo. Pa ti vidi what the olympic spirit is.
Thunder from down under "made in" znaci deka e nesto napraeno vo zemjata sho e spomnata posle made in , kako na primer doma da prajs vino i mozis da napisis slobodno made in france ako tapite ili lepenkite se napraeni vo francija nemorat da e vinoto a za sve ako e napraeno vo zemjata kako sho e primerot so Iskra Engineering ,poshto sigurno e i cel materijal izraboten i poteknuva od makedonija togas bi trebalo da stoi "product of macedonia" namesto "made in macedonia "
Pina Dobro be lugje shto begate od temata i prashanjeto shto go postaviv. Ostavete go "made in" na strana, vlezete vo department store pa poglednete kolku proizvodi se bez "made in".... Zborot mi beshe dali na fakelite od prethodnite olimpijadi bilo izgravirano ime na drzhavata kade shto e istiot izraboten. Ako ovoj sluchaj so nasheto ime e bez presedan togash da gi prashame lugjeto od Iskra dali dobile specijalni instrukcii da ne go izgraviraat imeto Makedonija, pa eden protest do MOK za politiziranje na Olimpijadata just for the record. Moram li ova pak da go povtoruvam. Za USA i Olympic spirit. Ha? ova bi bil interesen topik. Amerikancite ja menuvaat garderobata zatoa shto nekoj "ashlak" dobro ke se opari, "It's the profit(economy) stupid" Bill Clinton. Koe "made in" ke stoi na nivnata garderoba ne e vazhno, vazhno e chij logo ke bide na nea. Drzhete se na temata bi ve zamolil. Dali izostavuvanjeto na imeto Makedonija od olimpiskiot fakel e politika ili ne. Dajte mi fakti.
Strelec
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Originally posted by Pina
...Dali izostavuvanjeto na imeto Makedonija od olimpiskiot fakel e politika ili ne. Dajte mi fakti.
Да... политика е... И не мора да се дадат факти доколку е нешто многу јасно и без изнесување на факти!
Ceki So se zafatil be ti touku za fakelov? I so ne ti e jasno so grcija i so nejzinata politika kon naseto ime?
Pina
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Originally posted by Strelec
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Originally posted by Pina
...Dali izostavuvanjeto na imeto Makedonija od olimpiskiot fakel e politika ili ne. Dajte mi fakti.
Да... политика е... И не мора да се дадат факти доколку е нешто многу јасно и без изнесување на факти!
Vo toa e i problemot, bez fakti ona shto e "mnogu jasno" e chista propaganda ili iznesuvanje na svoe lichno mislenje, naivno politiziranje itn... vo sluchajov barame "vlakno vo jajce". Site se protiv nas neli? Osobeno sosedite. Realnosta e neshto sosema drugo. Nashiot problem so imeto za svetskite diplomati e banalna rabota, mozhebi ke go spomnat za vreme na lunch ili coffee break vo zavisnost od dnevnata megjunarodna politika, za mnogu od niv toa e chista administrativna rabota.... ama ajde ova e druga tema. Za sluchajov so politiziranje na Olimpiskiot fakel ne mozham da dadam svoe mislenje dodeka nekoj ne posochi deka na prethodnite olimpijadi fakelite go nosele imato na drzhavite kade shto bile izraboteni istite. Just for the record.
RedAlert Za dzabe pravime muabet.To est mozebi i ne za dzabe.Da si se potsetime deka Grcite se idioti i ocigledno e deka nemaat vrska so nivnite anticki predci bidejki ne znaat ni d od demokratija.I zatoa dragi moi navivajte za PORTUGALIJA vo finaleto na evropskoto prvenstvo!:P))) a ne gledam nekoi izrodi se raduvaat grcija shto tepala protiv Cheshka...Freaks!
AaaAa
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Originally posted by Pina
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Originally posted by Strelec
[quote]Originally posted by Pina
...Dali izostavuvanjeto na imeto Makedonija od olimpiskiot fakel e politika ili ne. Dajte mi fakti.
Да... политика е... И не мора да се дадат факти доколку е нешто многу јасно и без изнесување на факти!
Ne ne se nasite sosedi protiv nas, samo amerika e koja saka da ni ja zeme vodata-ne si gi mesaj "faktite." Tocno e deka e banalna rabota i zatoa e status quo u poslednite 10 godini, zatoa shto oni kutat i ne gi boli (normalno), ama izgleda i nas ne ne boli. Ako teravme so fakti denes imeto nemashe da bide problem. Ama Grcite ne igraat so Fakti taka da ne gledam pricina zashto tebe ti treba FAKT za da se pobunish protiv neshto sto i steti na tvojata zemja-fakt ili ne fakt Makedonija zaedno so proizvoditelot gubi vo slucajot. Za nekoj shto gi ceni i ne gi "omalovazuva" makedonskite resursi i bla bla ova bi trebalo da bide skandal. Neshto si mi po faktite ama ne gi prepoznavash ko gi ima, a ne gi barash ko treba. A za It's the economy stupid... ne koristi kvotacii koi ne gi razbirash i vtoro nikako ne apliciraat vo slucajot. kako toa amerika ke profitira so toa shto celata garderoba koja vekje e izrabotena za celiot tim nekade vo jebivetrina za 5 centi od parce, se frla i se prai nova vo USA kade shto rabotnicite ke mora da se platat mnogu pojke -baska ke se plakja dva pati! Debata bese dali uopste da se menja garderobata posto sportskata federacija ke izgubi pari- mimo toj fakt pobarano e ovde da se naprai nova. It's not the economy, it's the pride Stupid!
RedAlert AaaAa pokonfuzen si od drugarot Chomovski od A1 televizija!Daj malce pokonkreten.Od tvoive post-ovi sfativ samo deka Amerikancite se super luge drugo nisto.
Pina
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Originally posted by AaaAa
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Originally posted by Pina
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Originally posted by Strelec
[quote]Originally posted by Pina
...Dali izostavuvanjeto na imeto Makedonija od olimpiskiot fakel e politika ili ne. Dajte mi fakti.
Да... политика е... И не мора да се дадат факти доколку е нешто многу јасно и без изнесување на факти!
Ne ne se nasite sosedi protiv nas, samo amerika e koja saka da ni ja zeme vodata-ne si gi mesaj "faktite." Tocno e deka e banalna rabota i zatoa e status quo u poslednite 10 godini, zatoa shto oni kutat i ne gi boli (normalno), ama izgleda i nas ne ne boli. Ako teravme so fakti denes imeto nemashe da bide problem. Ama Grcite ne igraat so Fakti taka da ne gledam pricina zashto tebe ti treba FAKT za da se pobunish protiv neshto sto i steti na tvojata zemja-fakt ili ne fakt Makedonija zaedno so proizvoditelot gubi vo slucajot. Za nekoj shto gi ceni i ne gi "omalovazuva" makedonskite resursi i bla bla ova bi trebalo da bide skandal. Neshto si mi po faktite ama ne gi prepoznavash ko gi ima, a ne gi barash ko treba. A za It's the economy stupid... ne koristi kvotacii koi ne gi razbirash i vtoro nikako ne apliciraat vo slucajot. kako toa amerika ke profitira so toa shto celata garderoba koja vekje e izrabotena za celiot tim nekade vo jebivetrina za 5 centi od parce, se frla i se prai nova vo USA kade shto rabotnicite ke mora da se platat mnogu pojke -baska ke se plakja dva pati! Debata bese dali uopste da se menja garderobata posto sportskata federacija ke izgubi pari- mimo toj fakt pobarano e ovde da se naprai nova. It's not the economy, it's the pride Stupid!
A tie famozni fakti za zhal se protiv nasha volja. Jas ne znam kolku vreme imam pominato po knizharite i bibliotekite na Toronto prebaruvajki po razni enciklopedii, knigi i shto ushte ne, bilo shto za Macedonia. 90% od seto shto go vidov Ancient Macedonia ja tretira kako del od istorijata i kultura na Antichka Grcija. Ostatokot gi distancira ovie dve civilizacii taka da se izrazam, i ne ukazhuvaat na bilo kakva vrska so R. Makedonija i Makedonskata nacija. Nasheto uporno insistiranje na toa deka nie sme potomci na Ancient Macedonia i sledstveno na toa nashata drzhava treba da se narekuva Republic of Macedonia ne nosi nikakov efekt. Se fakjame za suva granka. Za da se najde alkata shto nedostasuva (missing link) treba vreme, makotrpna rabota, treba toa da se finansira za da se najde materijalen dokaz za nekakov kontinuitet. It's the economy,.....! ne e kvotacija, toa beshe slogan vo predizborna kampanja ima 10 godini? Mozhebi poveke, ne se sekjavam. I ne e vazhno shto sakal "pisatelot" da kazhe. "Makedonija nema vreme za chekanje" e neshto slichno...ej ne me fakjaj za vakvi bezznachajni raboti!!!! It's the pride and profit! Or the other way around maybe. Ama "Seto toa Narodot(American taxpayers vo sluchajov) ke go pozlati". Ne me fakjaj pak sega za ovaa kvotacija, please.
AaaAa
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Originally posted by Pina
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Originally posted by AaaAa
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Originally posted by Pina
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Originally posted by Strelec
[quote]Originally posted by Pina
...Dali izostavuvanjeto na imeto Makedonija od olimpiskiot fakel e politika ili ne. Dajte mi fakti.
Да... политика е... И не мора да се дадат факти доколку е нешто многу јасно и без изнесување на факти!
Ne ne se nasite sosedi protiv nas, samo amerika e koja saka da ni ja zeme vodata-ne si gi mesaj "faktite." Tocno e deka e banalna rabota i zatoa e status quo u poslednite 10 godini, zatoa shto oni kutat i ne gi boli (normalno), ama izgleda i nas ne ne boli. Ako teravme so fakti denes imeto nemashe da bide problem. Ama Grcite ne igraat so Fakti taka da ne gledam pricina zashto tebe ti treba FAKT za da se pobunish protiv neshto sto i steti na tvojata zemja-fakt ili ne fakt Makedonija zaedno so proizvoditelot gubi vo slucajot. Za nekoj shto gi ceni i ne gi "omalovazuva" makedonskite resursi i bla bla ova bi trebalo da bide skandal. Neshto si mi po faktite ama ne gi prepoznavash ko gi ima, a ne gi barash ko treba. A za It's the economy stupid... ne koristi kvotacii koi ne gi razbirash i vtoro nikako ne apliciraat vo slucajot. kako toa amerika ke profitira so toa shto celata garderoba koja vekje e izrabotena za celiot tim nekade vo jebivetrina za 5 centi od parce, se frla i se prai nova vo USA kade shto rabotnicite ke mora da se platat mnogu pojke -baska ke se plakja dva pati! Debata bese dali uopste da se menja garderobata posto sportskata federacija ke izgubi pari- mimo toj fakt pobarano e ovde da se naprai nova. It's not the economy, it's the pride Stupid!
A tie famozni fakti za zhal se protiv nasha volja. Jas ne znam kolku vreme imam pominato po knizharite i bibliotekite na Toronto prebaruvajki po razni enciklopedii, knigi i shto ushte ne, bilo shto za Macedonia. 90% od seto shto go vidov Ancient Macedonia ja tretira kako del od istorijata i kultura na Antichka Grcija. Ostatokot gi distancira ovie dve civilizacii taka da se izrazam, i ne ukazhuvaat na bilo kakva vrska so R. Makedonija i Makedonskata nacija. Nasheto uporno insistiranje na toa deka nie sme potomci na Ancient Macedonia i sledstveno na toa nashata drzhava treba da se narekuva Republic of Macedonia ne nosi nikakov efekt. Se fakjame za suva granka. Za da se najde alkata shto nedostasuva (missing link) treba vreme, makotrpna rabota, treba toa da se finansira za da se najde materijalen dokaz za nekakov kontinuitet. It's the economy,.....! ne e kvotacija, toa beshe slogan vo predizborna kampanja ima 10 godini? Mozhebi poveke, ne se sekjavam. I ne e vazhno shto sakal "pisatelot" da kazhe. "Makedonija nema vreme za chekanje" e neshto slichno...ej ne me fakjaj za vakvi bezznachajni raboti!!!! It's the pride and profit! Or the other way around maybe. Ama "Seto toa Narodot(American taxpayers vo sluchajov) ke go pozlati". Ne me fakjaj pak sega za ovaa kvotacija, please.
Aj aj aj. Zarem ti sebe si se narekuvash Makedonec zatoa shto veruvash deka aleksandar veliki bil makedonec, ili zatoa shto veruvash deka sme potomci na aleksandar Makedonski? So srekja neka ti e tebe ako toa ti e pricinata, mene ne mi e. Prvo imam ogromen somnez okolu toa dali Aco bil Makedonec, I isrekno da ti kazam ne me ni tangira shto on bil, posto 3000 I kusur godini unazad nema da ne opraat nas. Dali Anticka Makedonija ni pripagja nam ili na Grcite e uste edna rabota koja im pripagja na istoricarite, neka si igraat oni I dokazuvaat jas nemam namera. Site nie mozeme da veruvame u shto sakame, I nikogash ama nikogash nema da ima cvrsti dokazi za toa, a I ko ke gi najdat, seuste ke postojat mnogu lugje koi ke gi stavaat pod znak prasalnik. Jas sum makedonka I se narekuvam I se custvuvam taka od denot koga sum se rodila. Zatoa shto tatko mi , I dedo mi I pradedo mi , I cukun dedo mi se narekuvale I custvuvale isto. Zatoa shto toa ime go koristele so nego se identifikuvale I taka se custvuvale moite predci za koi imam fakti tako zvani Goce Delcev, Pitu, Brakjata Miladinovci I da ne redam. Dali imale I dali imame pravo na toa, sekako, se vika pravo na samodeterminacija, ili self-determination. Ne I go zemavme imeto na Grcive, go imame so vekovi. A imeto kolku im pripagja nim ni pripagja I nam I na cel svet, posto kolku nie nemame dokaz deka poteknuvame od antickite makedonci, tolku I grcite nemozat da tvrdat deka Aleksandar bil Grk, posto ne bil. A edno e fakt, deka Geografskata teritorija koja ja naseluvame e ona mesto od kade shto Anticka Makedonija krenala da se siri, ne od Atina. Toa shto ti vo Toronto naletuvash na knigi vo koi istorijata se prestavuva ko Grcka e samo za toa shto Grcite od sekogash imale mnogu pogolemo lobi, I od sekogash se trudele da izdadat shto e mozno povekje za da tie I dadat pravec na istorijata. Primer ti e I najnoviot film na Spielberg, Alex Great cij producent e nikoj drug sem Tom Hanks, cija zena e mnogu dobro poznata vo Grckite lobi krugovi. Nejse, celava taa istorija e seuste pod znak prasalnik I uste mnogu dolgo ke bide, ona shto ne e pod znak prasalnik e toa shto imeto na mojata zemja, priznato od pogolemiot del na ovoj svet e Republika Makedonija. Fabrikata kade shto se izgradil toj torch se naogja vo Republika Makedonija. Ako Grcite imaat problem so toa, nemoraat voopsto da sorabotuvaat so nas, no nie da potklekneme I da popustime I da go predademe ona shto sme I shto se custvuvame zatoa shto tie ne pritiskaat… pa toa e zalno. Jas Makedonija ne ja asociram so Aleksandar Makedonski i anticka makedonija, jas Makedonija ja asociram pred i se, so gradot od kade shto doagjam, so stalazite so praski kaj rosoman, i dinjite kaj saramzalino na leto, so smrdezot na kantive za gubre vo skopje, so padinite na sara, so vinogradite na Kavadarci i Negotino, so biserot Ohridski, so napatenite Makedonski faci na Kvantaski, so lovdziite na vardar... Ti so shto? i shto sme ako ne sme Makedonci, I kako bi ti da se narecesh Pina? Makotrpna rabota I borba, ama borba so princip ne podvivanje opas. I ne, ne se fakjame za slamka, imeto Makedonija za nas ne treba da e slamka, tuku nasava dusa. A sto se odnesuva “It’s the economy stupid,” izvini ama nekako ne reagiram dobro na raboti koi lugjevo ke gi iskoristat a ustvari neznaat zashto. Tocno e toa deka Sloganot za kampanjata Clinton/Gore 92ra bese It’s the economy stupid, ama toj slogan ne mu pripagja na Clinton (isto ko shto na Grcite ne im pripagja imeto Makedonija iako sakaat da go koristat a neznaat zashto) tuku na James Carville. Vtoro, ti mi upotrebi slogan, a ne mi objasni iako te prasav, kako toa vrakjanjeto I prepravanjeto na US Olympic team garderoba ke I pomogne na ekonomijata, koja e korelacijata so ona shto Carville sakal da go kaze dalecnata 92ra u vezi nivnata idnina dokolku go izberat Clinton/Gore timot?
graf aam bre. whats the deal. It is good that it was made in macedonia .Ama it is bullshit that it does not say "MADE IN MACEDONIA" on the torch :(. I wounder how much dinears it cost .I say $10,000 eheheh