Dionisios Zakintinos
Dionisios Zakintinos
Misirkov Grckiot istoricar Dionisios Zakintinos vo svojata "Istorija na Vizantija 324-1071" na str. 181 pisuva deka: "...vo 813 godina, bugarskite ordi na Krum, otkako go zazele i do temel go izgorele Edrene (negovite ziteli spored nekoi svedocenja 12.000) zaedno so zarobenite od drugi gradovi, sto eden crkoven tekst gi presmetal na okolu 40.000, bile nasilno odvedeni preku dunav vo Juzna Besarabija i tamu sozdale opstina narecena Makedonija."
Skitian I'm not nervous. Obviously you got nervous and deleted my post about Serdjan Pirivatrich's book. There are not evidens that the "masedonians" meens nationality. Most probably "macedonians" meens inhabitant of the administrative unit and nothing else. Isn't it a good book Samuilova drzava is it.
Skitian FROM STUPID TATAR: SO WHAT???
Misirkov Getting nervous? I can't immagine why?[:D] Perhaps you should go to BAN to ask for instructions.[;)] Since I cannot draw for you, let me try again. The point is that there were Macedonians who continued to live in Thrace (thus the theme Macedonia in Byzantium) and when they were forcefully resettled again, named their new land of domicile Macedonia. Or all this does not bode well for your ideology of bulgarianism?
Divider Most bulgarians mean just that bulgarian. "There can be no greater insult that to be called bulgarian" quote by : Simeon Saxe Kobugh Gotha Prime Minister of Bulgaria
Maleshevo
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Originally posted by Misirkov
Grckiot istoricar Dionisios Zakintinos vo svojata "Istorija na Vizantija 324-1071" na str. 181 pisuva deka: "...vo 813 godina, bugarskite ordi na Krum, otkako go zazele i do temel go izgorele Edrene (negovite ziteli spored nekoi svedocenja 12.000) zaedno so zarobenite od drugi gradovi, sto eden crkoven tekst gi presmetal na okolu 40.000, bile nasilno odvedeni preku dunav vo Juzna Besarabija i tamu sozdale opstina narecena Makedonija."
Има тука еден проблем во твојот цитат Мисирков! Каде е Едрене? Не е во Македонија! Што бараат тие Македонци надвор од Македонија, како тоа таму се нашле т.е. од каде таму Македонци? Се работи ли воопшто за Македонци или можда се сепак римско или грчко население кое Грците денес го нарекуваат Македонци, бидејќи Василие I (Basil I) ја преимнеува Тракија во Македонија, а Македонија ја преименува во Славиниа!
Skitian Good question I see you start thinking.
Maleshevo Tatar, when I was thinking, you tataro-mongolian was still beliving that the hall Balkan is bulgarian land settled by bulgarians tataromongols.
Divider When they start thinking they will be no more. They'll kill them seves knowing that they have spent their lives as tatars. Shame, better let them be, just turko-tataric hordes trying to steal what they have not gained.
Misirkov No evidence that Macedonians "means" nationality? Obviously, you are sure of that even though you talk to Macedonians on the forum[:D] The famous bulgarian logic at work. And cool off a bit, though I know you are brainwashed to the max. "...lets us consider those of the present Macedonians who blinded by concealed glow of Hellenic wisdom, accept that they should scorn and revoke their own nationality...the time seems opportune for me to exclaim: Ah, how far away the time really is when Hellas, as everybody calls her today, was subjected to Macedonian authority..." Stefan Zahariev, Chitalishte, Istanbul, I/7, 1871, p.214-216.
Divider ...If we bear in mind that Princess Olga - the first Russian woman converted to Christianity in order to preserve the independence of Russia and to gain autonomy in ecclesiastical affairs - was a very shrewd diplomat, then we are in agreement with the claim of Russian scholar M.D. Priselkov (1881 -1941), who first promoted the thesis that Olga had been Christianised in Ohrid! Priselkov's conclusions were based on the fact that at the time of converting Russians into Christians, Russia had no firm and permanent ties with Byzantium and that the Christian teachings adopted by the Russians were distinctly different from those of Byzantium. Therefore, Kiev Russia took Christianity not from Byzantium but from the Archbishop of Ohrid. The Russian Church, according to Priselkov, was one of the parishes of the Ohrid Archbishopric... ...The christening of Kiev Russia, chronologically, parallels the existence of the Empire of Tsar Samuel. Samuel's Church, the Ohrid Archbishopric, which raised its status to that of Patriarchy during his reign, maintained strong relations with many Slav peoples, a fact that is undisputed. (3) Some scholars (and M.D. Priselkov in particular) thought that the Ohrid Archbishopric maintained its jurisdiction over the Russian Church even after Macedonia fell under Byzantium's rule during the reign of Basil II. Priselkov thought that the grandson of Princess Olga, Prince Vladimir, was also Christianised in Ohrid and that it may have happened in 987 AD. Vladimir's first wife (her name was not preserved), the mother of his sons Boris and Gleb, the first Russian saints, according to Priselkov could have been a member of the family of Tsar Samuel because of the fact that their Christian names, Roman and David, were very common among Samuel's courtiers. Another possibility is that the relations between Kiev and Ohrid cooled off after Prince Vladimir married Ana, the sister of the Byzantine emperor, after he was widowed by the death of his first wife... So tatar (if I say what I really mean to say to you, Misirkov, rightly, will delete me) you know...sod off Aren't you tired of being wrong?