Kakov Makedonski zboruvate?
Kakov Makedonski zboruvate?
OooOo Jas sum 6+ godini nadvor od Makedonija i koga zboram doma ili so drugi Makedonci nastojuvam da ne ufrlam anglicizmi. E sega bozhe moj, kje mi se desi nekogash da lupnam po nekoj zbor, ali toa e retkost. Vie?
nemo
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Originally posted by dada Sani
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Originally posted by profa Tek pa ko ke idam kaj dada Sani ,oh my god [:D]
Kjuti ne kazuvaj, ke ni se smeat[:I][:D]
Z`sto da ni se smeat vo Obideneta Makedonija ke bide strumicko-radoviski-dojransko-gevgeliski-kukuski dijalekti za literaturen jazik i ke imame 32 bukvi priblizno kako vo staroslovenskio [;)][:D]
wolf_pack Po doma iskluchivo Makedonski, ne znaat mojte chisto angliski:) gi ucham koa uripam so anglicizmot[:D] Nadvor od doma retko iam kontakt so MK.
dada Sani Koga razgovaram so postari - makedonski bez anglicizmi, so pomladi - makedonski so anglicizmi. Letovo vo Makedonija imav problemi so "OK", ne mozev da go eliminiram:) Sum primetila deka nekoi raboti poubavo se objasnuvaat so nekoj angliski zbor ili fraza i obratno, da ne mozam da najdam soodveten angliski zbor za nesto na makedonski
Strelec O Dzesus, stvarno kul topik...!:) by the way, jas sum okej so makedonskiot... i go zboram olmost stalno... ne e vazhno dali sum doma, ili vo skul, ili vo bar... daznt metr!
deni pregeska beh do molo , i gledam nov department stor otvorile da gi eem .Si kupih neshto i trgnah nadoma , i ka me fati eden trafik , si eba majkata. [:D]
јузер Јас па обратно. Во Хрватска ме викаат маџар зашто го владеам хрватскиот. А кога сум во Македонија ме викаат неписмен еден, зашто Дружината на Перо Џумката (хрв: Дружина Пера Чврге) е единствена книга што ја имам прочитано во живот.
dada Sani
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Originally posted by deni
pregeska beh do molo , i gledam nov department stor otvorile da gi eem .Si kupih neshto i trgnah nadoma , i ka me fati eden trafik , si eba majkata. [:D]
faken na glas se smeam[:D][:D][:D]
Whitebaby **** ne mi gazi so patikite na tepihot, soblechi gi! Mom, who cares!!! More ke kerash ako te fatam samo!!! [:D] Imam problem samo so tri raboti sho nemozham da gi iskorenam duri i koga zboram so moite... Whatever, That's ok i OK. [:D] A da... i ushe edna smeshka... ne mi teknuvashe ednash kako da go kazham asshole i go kazhav ko gzna dupka!!! [:D][:D][:D] Ushe nemozham da veruvam koja glupost ja otkachiv. Kako mozheshe na shupak da ne mi tekne. [:D]
deni najinteresni se decata rodeni u stranstvo koga zboruvaat makedonski .Zhiva komedija . Daj malku od toj krastajcov . mi tekna edna sluchka Bevme na konveshn u Ohio i gledavme fudbal . Ide popot nakaj nas i vika " Skoraa nashive be ? :)
Whitebaby
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Originally posted by deni Daj malku od toj krastajcov .
deni... [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
ArIeS Imam problemi so DA non stop koristam (JA)``swe`` ,i non-stop me zezaat koga ke se javam telefonski ili koga sum vo Mkd
ProMKD znaci ti ke dignes tel i vikas "Ja" a oni od tamu vikaat "sto be ti?" [:)]
DJ_SHEMA Ja zabeguvam so anglicizmi, pa tek koga kje zacepam na angliski so zena mi, za sramota.
Aj u Kafic Huh, pa jas zhiveam vo Germanija, i upotrebuvam anglicizmi ... so majka mi si terame po makedonski i po nashiot regionalen dialekt, a koga sum vo MK zavisi so kogo zboruvam. No stvarno mislev deka "ok" e makedonski zbor ;)
zlotty_co_380 A be jas i taka i taka ,zavisi , koga se javuvam vo mkd kaj mojte se trudam da ne vikam ni ok ni orajt ama nekogas ke se ispusti. A inaku tuka ednas odam u ona selono u Rockadele kade sto e soobrana cela seljacana od mkd , site nepismeni , ama ete srejkata gi posluzila, pa neznaat kako da se zablagodarat pa samo ja kolnat Australia , u picku materin ja oteraa, dobro toa sto ja oteraa u pickun materin , edna zena na decata im vika: " Moreeee deca pistajte se od stritot, trgnete se pokraj fencot, gledaate karovite kako vozat po stritot". I decata i velat. "babo, babo what did u say?" i ona pak, " moreeeee pistaj se, od stritot, pistaj se kraj fencot, tebe ti zboram ne zboram na rubishot....ne tuku mi se dzveri da ne ti dzvrknam edna.... I taka vejke se odaleciv i ne gi slusav ponataka .... Jas si vikam ooooo f**ken k*rwa , sto ne ke vidis i cues na ovoj ostrov i si prodolziv po patot so oblacite.
ArIeS
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Originally posted by ProMKD
znaci ti ke dignes tel i vikas "Ja" a oni od tamu vikaat "sto be ti?" [:)]
Ne mi bese toa muabetot,ali nema veze[;)]
Aj u Kafic eh, i ne se smejte na decata koi ne znaat tolku dobro makedonski. Krivi se roditelite ... pa i oni, shto ne se potrudile da naucat podobro makedonski...
Aj u Kafic zlotty, ... aha i kaj vas diasporata ja kolna zemjata vo koja opstanala? Pa i tuka Makedoncite, eve vie gi vikate gastarbajteri, ja kolnat Germanija, no veruj mi, najubavo e samo da si kjutish ... covek retko primetuva sushestvo stanal vo zhivotot.
nemo
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Originally posted by zlotty_co_380
A be jas i taka i taka ,zavisi , koga se javuvam vo mkd kaj mojte se trudam da ne vikam ni ok ni orajt ama nekogas ke se ispusti. A inaku tuka ednas odam u ona selono u Rockadele kade sto e soobrana cela seljacana od mkd , site nepismeni , ama ete srejkata gi posluzila, pa neznaat kako da se zablagodarat pa samo ja kolnat Australia , u picku materin ja oteraa, dobro toa sto ja oteraa u pickun materin , edna zena na decata im vika: " Moreeee deca pistajte se od stritot, trgnete se pokraj fencot, gledaate karovite kako vozat po stritot". I decata i velat. "babo, babo what did u say?" i ona pak, " moreeeee pistaj se, od stritot, pistaj se kraj fencot, tebe ti zboram ne zboram na rubishot....ne tuku mi se dzveri da ne ti dzvrknam edna.... I taka vejke se odaleciv i ne gi slusav ponataka .... Jas si vikam ooooo f**ken k*rwa , sto ne ke vidis i cues na ovoj ostrov i si prodolziv po patot so oblacite.
Hahaha Kako moze taka da e nasekade se toa starite mesat[:)][:D][:D], no sega novite generacii HM druga rabota
suspect Jas sum ovde 8 god. i da vi kazam pravo si zboruvam chisto prilepski,a i mojte deca.So 50tina Makedonci na broj,kolku shto sme vo Helsinki,zamislete ja komunikacijata...??? No bidejki doma komunicirame na makedonski,nema problem.....i sekogash ke bidi taka.Za decata....i jas mislam deka roditelite se vinovni.....kako shto slusha ,taka ke nauchi.Druga e prikaskata so meshanite brakovi,i opravdani se togash otstapki.... P.S.Eden isselenik od Jugoslavija rekol: "Koga chovek ke zamine od svojata zemja,go gubi imotot,a koga ke "zamine" od svojot jazik,ja gubi dushata.Sakam i den denes da mislam,kako zemajki gi so sebe site svoi knigi,sum go spasil i ednoto i drugoto" Jas samo se potpishuvam na gore navedenoto.
mafisKumA lele samo Thunder da nego vidi ovaj topic [:p] then who's going to stop him so primer [:X][:p][:o)] ma poarno pa ni jas da ne pornuvam [:D][:p]
zlotty_co_380 Sega ke vi kazam uste nesto: Imase edni prilepcani tuka i taa zenata neznaese da kazi immigration. I ednas ja prasaa : Mori XXXX kade ti e mazot, a ona: - A be otide vo immigresenieno da vidi za vizite oti ke si ojme Macedonia. Immigresenieno i den denes vika ona: [:D][:D][:D], namesto immigration Kako i da e,srejkno i veselo si ziveaat vo Prilep blagodarenie na penzijata sto ja dobivaat od tuka. Nepismeni dojdoa, nepismeni ostanaa, nepismeni se vratija, smao se vratija so dzebovi polni i nisto drugo.
element
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Originally posted by zlotty_co_380
Sega ke vi kazam uste nesto: Imase edni prilepcani tuka i taa zenata neznaese da kazi immigration. I ednas ja prasaa : Mori XXXX kade ti e mazot, a ona: - A be otide vo immigresenieno da vidi za vizite oti ke si ojme Macedonia. Immigresenieno i den denes vika ona: [:D][:D][:D], namesto immigration Kako i da e,srejkno i veselo si ziveaat vo Prilep blagodarenie na penzijata sto ja dobivaat od tuka. Nepismeni dojdoa, nepismeni ostanaa, nepismeni se vratija, smao se vratija so dzebovi polni i nisto drugo.
ednas citav od eden skandinavski pisatel kniga za vo Nov Zeeland covekot ne mozese da se nacudi kako eden nas Makedonec ziveel 30 godini i ne znael da govori angliski e toa se vika pecalbar[:D]
slasa mr.OoooO 26 godini nadvor pa poak ne go zaboraviv Makedonskiot . mislam deka go zborvam bas cisto bez anglo makedonski . kako sto se zborvi vo Makedonija . posledno vreme .
јузер slasa tursko-resenski zboris ti ne lazi :)))
element samo zaboraviv covekot se vratil doma i koga novinarot go zaprasal e da ne znaes ni eden zbor angliski[:D][:D][:D]kako ke go vodi niz Skopje[:D][:D]
``Emilija HAHAHA...hmm a topic to think about... :o) Jas si govoram poveke na holandiski. A doma mesham i holandiski i makedonski so mojte :p Normalno e toa koga skoro sekoj den na Holandiski si pravam maubet. Po nekogas i ne mozam da se snajdam na nekoj zbor (ili nema dobar prevod na makedonski) i ke mi se ispuste na Holandiski. ((( ups ))) PA JEBIGA..po lesno i brzo mi ode. So da se prave...tuka si zivejam veke 15 god...a tam vo mkd i 1 odelenie ne zavrshih :o) A pak e po drugo koga ke odas za mkd na odmor na primer...tam pak poveke se druzas so makedonci i skoro cel den go govoras makedonskiot jazik...i taka ne gresham tolku...aj tolku od mene...bajbaj
slasa
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Originally posted by јузер
slasa tursko-resenski zboris ti ne lazi :)))
pa za razlika od tebe jas ne velam edukejsan il#246;i hospitaliziran bese :[:D][:D]
RaGeAnGeL jas si zborvam cisto ohridski
dejan Samo so moite zboruvam Makedonski, so nikoj drug....ne se druzhime tolku so nasi pa taka samo so niv, i vas[;)]
RaGeAnGeL zos be dejance taka...am zos ne si fatish tamu nekoja nasha
element
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Originally posted by RaGeAnGeL
zos be dejance taka...am zos ne si fatish tamu nekoja nasha
More za tie godini Dejan nauci nogu dobro da pisuva i da se izrazuva, i pametno stana ne treska gluposti kako so treskase porano [:D][:D][;)]
element
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Originally posted by RaGeAnGeL
zos be dejance taka...am zos ne si fatish tamu nekoja nasha
treba uste da smeni edinta picturata pa [:D][:D]
Tanja19 po idiot covek od mene nema....dojdov u slovenija,se zapisav na fax i pocnav so predavanja a poim nemav od slovenski...kako tele zjaev na predavanjata i vezbi i se so znaev e:nic ne vem-nisto ne znam....posle mesec pocnav da se uklopuvam....ali oti celo vreme pazev dane tresnam nekoa glupost koga si odam vo mak mi se ispusta nekoj slovenski zbor i odma site naporecki me geldat,pod oko... i mene najcesto problem mi e koga se javuvam na telefonot...sekogas vikam "ja" ili "prosim"...i za izvini tuka vikat sorry,probav ali ne mozam da se odviknam,sorry celo vreme vikam i cesto mi se slucuva da kazuvam nekoi zborovi koi gi ima vo makedonskiot jazik,ali so razlicno znacenje...eden tip ja prasuvase drugarka mi dali e slobodna i jas mu vikam:prosta e!!!...[:0]i ovaa se naluti...a ustvari prosta na slovenski znaci slobodna[:D]
Tik Tak "Nie" 15 godini out od MK i perfekto si zboram:)) Si pravam sam so sebe muabet redovno i nema problem...a tek koga kje se zakaram sam so sebe auuu so ubavo mi ide[:)]
profa
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Originally posted by Strelec
O Dzesus, stvarno kul topik...!:) by the way, jas sum okej so makedonskiot... i go zboram olmost stalno... ne e vazhno dali sum doma, ili vo skul, ili vo bar... daznt metr!
haha,ovaa me rascepi vistina. Me potseti na dadava koga mi zbori,oh da ja cuete samo. Abe da sakam,mozam 99,9999999% da zboram Makedonski so znaci na primer se plasam od toa "OK", mi e mnogu sumljivo. Inaku ubacuvam amer zborovi od so mi e polesno nekoi situacii da gi objasnam na angl nego na Maked a ne deka nema da mozam. Tek pa ko ke idam kaj dada Sani ,oh my god [:D]
dada Sani
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Originally posted by profa Tek pa ko ke idam kaj dada Sani ,oh my god [:D]
Kjuti ne kazuvaj, ke ni se smeat[:I][:D]
nemo
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Originally posted by vagabontin
Razlikata i slicnosta se golemi i mali na nekoi mesta pomegu srpskiot jezik, bugarskiot ezik i makedonskiot jazik no sepak se razlicni jazici.
kirotap ИНTEPBЈУ НА ИВАН /ВАНЧО/ MИXAJЛOB ВОДАЧОТ НА ВМРО ПОСЛЕ 1924 Г. РАЗГОВОРОТ Е ПРОВЕДЕН СО КОРЕСПОНДЕНТ НА В. „ХРВАТСКА" ВО 1970 г. ПРАШАЊЕ: Во што се состои, поточно во што може да се види некаква разлика измеѓу кралскиот и комунистичкиот режим во Македонија? ОДГОВОР: Кралскиот режим започна веднаш со посрбувањето. А сегашниот режим ја усвои препораката на српскиот политичар Стојан Новаковиќ, која тoj кон кpaj на минатиот век ja даваше на белградските одговорни фактори. Против Бугарштината, кoja ја признаваше Новаковиќ дека има длабок корен во Македонија, мастерски треба да се противопостави „македонството", т.е. треба да се използува географското име на земјата. Титовци започнаа со физички напади врз бугарската интелигенција и сите влијателни Бугари. Истовремено започнаа и систематска пропаганда, дека Македонците се оделна народност, а не Бугари. Оваа демагагија со географското име достигна огромни размери. Верно е, дека ние покрај нашето бугарско име сме се нарекували и македонци, но само во онаа смисла како далматинците Хрвати се нарекуваат себе си далматинци, или херцеговците Хрвати - се нарекуваат и херцеговци. Во Македонија Турците, Грците и Ароманите исто се означуваат и како Македонци. Секој малку пописмен човек знае, дека во скоро сите европски земји има области со различ-ни географски имиња, а суштествуваат и племенски имиња. При Бугарите имаме географски имиња: Добруџа, Тракија и Македонија, но и денес се среќаваат уште племенски имиња: рупци, торлаци, брсјаци, мијаци, шопи. Ако новите скопски жупани, поради омраза против Бугарштината, сакаат под маската на гео-графското име да прогласуват „Македонска народност", логично е да ги запрашаме: зошто не ги прогласуваат во својата жупанија како оделна народност Брсјаците, така како населението околу градовите Кичево и Крушево е позното под истото име? Во Италија и Германија би следувало, врз основа на географски и стари племенски имиња, да бидат прогласени барем десетина нови „народности". Но никој не тргнува по таков погрешен пат, освен зеслепените шовинисти од категоријата на Новаковиќ, или оформилите се во негов дух рене-гати, какви се денешните комунисти во Македонија под југословенска власт. Кажав, дека имињата Македонија и Далмација се стари, како е старо името Галија (денешна Франција). Но не суштествуваат народности македонска, далматинска или галска". Иван (Ванчо) Михајлов 1970
dalila
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Originally posted by profa
Me potseti na dadava koga mi zbori,oh da ja cuete samo.
Sega mi e jasno zoshto ona izbegava da ukluchi google talk so mene[:D]
slasa Christijan ne mesam ni jas . ali gi ima tie sto measat
Christian daj be nekoj neka gi banira voa rasipuvacive na zabava.Samo gluposti tropaat,pa edna bandera ima poveke pamet od niv. Ama da se vratime na temata,jas sum vo anglija 9 godini,i nikogas ne mesam makedonski so angliski.iako ovde nema makedonci kaj so sum jas,ama zatoa idam na forumov malce makedonski da potreniram.Koga sum vo makedonija isto taka nema problemi,samo sto dijalektot go izgubiv.
FireDevil Epa jas zboram cisto Bitolski ali i razbiram esperanto :D mora da razbirash cim si vo dijasprata ako neznajsh esperanto togash ne mozish da zborash so makedoncite oti fakt ap e se:))) Pozdrav...
gosoro THE FALSIFICATION OF HISTORY- Symposium at Columbia University The symposium, titled "The Importance of Ilinden in the Awakening of Macedonian National Consciousness", took place in the School of Journalism, Columbia University, presenting falsifications, distortions of historical facts, omissions of documented events, as well as deliberate unresponsiveness to the Pan-Macedonian delegation who were present during the presentations. Mr. Kiro Gligorov, the former President of the Macedonia, was the main speaker. The event which took place on September 20th, was sponsored by the Harriman Institute of Columbia University, the East Central European Center and the Macedonian Arts Council, had as its main theme the anniversary of the Ilinten revolution against the Turkish rule in the Balkans. The theme of Mr. Gligorov's speech was "Macedonia from Ilinten until Now". Other participants in the discussion were Dr. Nadine Akhund, from Columbia University, addressing "1903 Seen Through the Eyes of Europe", Dr. Duncan Perry, "1903-The Ilinden Uprising and its Legacy". Mr. Blaze Ristovski from the Macedonian Academy of Science and Arts (MANU) introduced "Macedonia in 1903" and Dr. Andrew Rossos from the University of Toronto spoke on "Macedonian National Consciousness in 1903". Dr. Nantine Akhurd, who received her doctorate at the University of Sorbone, France, spoke first. She addressed the events that occurred in 1903 in Macedonia. She came to certain conclusions from the research she did, based on the correspondence of various European diplomats of that time. She read certain letters of diplomats and at the end she concluded that the Turks did not keep accurate records, "therefore it is difficult to calculate the exact number of the ethnicities that existed in the Turkish-occupied Macedonia. However from the correspondence of the diplomats we can assume the most prevailing nationalities were Slavic, Bulgarian and Serbian. In addition there were French, German and Italian companies in Salonik". No mention at all about the Greek element in the area!! The rest of the academicians spoke and all of them praised and glorified the Ilinten uprising, which even though was not successful, "Macedonia" emerged as an international issue, which resulted in the awakening of the "Macedonian" national consciousness. No one mentioned that this uprising was staged by the Bulgarians and the Bulgarians were inviting all the nationalities in the area, even the peasant Turkish population, to revolt against the Sultan. No one pointed out that the Manifesto of Krushevo was written in Bulgarian. None of the academicians revealed that during the revolt, with Krushevo as its epicenter, the Turks who had been bribed by the Bulgarians exterminated the Greek population and the Hellenized Vlachs of Krushevo. No one mentioned that 366 Greek homes and 203 Greek shops were destroyed by the vengeance of the Turks and Bulgarians. The Slavs, today's self-proclaimed "Macedonians" were coerced to finance the "revolution", but as soon as they found the chance, they escaped to the mountains. The scholars totally glorified individuals such as Damien Grueff and their horrid actions during that period. Dr. Duncan Perry in his book The Politics of Terror: The MacEdonian Liberation Movement, 1893-1904, identified this uprising as an act of terror. It is not known under which circumstances he changed his opinion and why during the deliverance of his theme he concluded that the Ilinten revolution "awakened the "Macedonian" national consciousness". A translator read Mr. Blaze Ristovski's lecture. King Philip, Alexander the Great, as well as Cyril and Methodius were depicted as "Macedonian" personas. Following a ten-minute break, Mr. Herbert S. Okun, former American Ambassador to UN, introduced the keynote speaker, the former President of the Macedonia, Mr. Kiro Gligorov. The American former Ambassador named Mr. Gligorov as the "peace-maker" of the Balkans and "George Washington" of "Macedonia", since under his direction "Macedonia" was able to face various problems such as the problems with the Serbian Church, problems with the Albanians and issues with Greece about the name". A copy of Mr. Gligorov's translated in English address was distributed to the audience, since the former President spoke in "Macedonian". This surprised us because later the Vice-President of the Pan-Macedonian Association conversed with Mr. Gligorov and he noted that Mr. Gligorov was an excellent speaker of the English language. Obviously we couldn't follow Mr. Gligorov's speech, however we are certain of one fact, that the former President's oral lecture was much lengthier than the translated copy we held in our hands. A couple, who was sitting near us, explained that they were Bulgarians, they however could understand everything that Mr. Gligorov was saying (but don't the Macedoniaians insist that their language is the same language that Alexander the Great and his "Macedonian" soldiers were using to communicate?). Mr. Gligorov's speech lasted for two hours and he continuously was receiving messages from various individuals. In the beginning we thought that individuals in charge of the symposium were trying to urge him to be brief, but as we assumed they were rather urging him to do otherwise. Thus reaching the end of his lecture there was no time for the academically established etiquette of "questions and answer period" between panelists and audience, especially in such an institution of higher learning as the Columbia University. Consequently the plethora of questions that we had remained unanswered, an unacceptable incident for the caliber of such an institution. There is no doubt that the machination of the Skopjan propaganda cannot face situations that is not ready for, or have answers to questions that it is unable to answer. After the lectures were delivered we approached the panelists and we offered Dr. Nantine Akhurd the book titled, The Events of 1903 in Macedonia, published by the Museum of the Macedonian Struggle, in which of course the predominance of the Greek element in Macedonia is obvious and well stated. When we referred that the Ilinten uprising was a Bulgarian revolt, Dr. Akhurd would not accept it. Mr. Spiliakos, the Vice President of the Association, approached Mr. Gligorov and in a affable manner said to the former President: "if half of the good things that the Ambassador said about you are true, then I wish our Association to be invited in Skopje and to have our scholars and your scholars discuss a few things". At that moment Mr. Okun intervened, "I knew that there are no real problems between "Macedonia" and Greece", to which Mr. Spiliakos answered: "it is not POSSIBLE for Greece and Macedonia to have problems. However there are problems between the Macedonia and Greece". A photograph depicting the White Tower of Thessaloniki and the Stettinius air gram was cordially offered to Mr. Gligorov and to the Ambassador. We do have to clarify that this symposium was nothing else than an attempt for this little state to acquire history prior to 1945 and thus to be more intimately connected with its "Macedonian" element.
FireDevil gasoro don`t be a idiot and get a f**k out of here :) becouse you are bored so we`ll see what will happened we don`t need your stoopid fake posts so... please get f**k :)
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