Intersection of events helped 'Crash'
Intersection of events helped 'Crash'
BorisVM How did Crash pull off the upset of the Oscars? Theories abound about how the film took the best-picture Academy Award, from urban bias to a canny DVD marketing campaign. But some observers also question whether voters in the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences weren't ready to embrace Brokeback Mountain, the gay-cowboy film that was expected to take the top prize Sunday night. "We're extremely disappointed it didn't win best picture," says Neil Giuliano, president of The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation. "We certainly aren't going to paint the entire academy with a broad stroke, but maybe there was some conflict in some members' minds. Still, the movie got tremendous recognition, and we're very pleased with that." Brokeback had eight nominations and was favored to win best picture by the number of pre-Oscar awards it collected. The movie did win Oscars for best director, Ang Lee, score and adapted screenplay. Larry McMurtry, who won the Oscar with Diana Ossana for adapting Annie Proulx's short story into the screenplay for Brokeback, says he wonders whether Crash, about race relations in Los Angeles, benefited from being set in the city where most academy members live. "Yeah, I do," McMurtry says. "The members of the academy are mostly urban people. We're not a rural nation. It's not easy to get a rural story made." In addition to having a timely theme that resonated among the Los Angeles film community, Crash had the benefit of a well-timed $4 million Oscar DVD campaign. Crash took in about $53.4 million for its May theatrical release. It came out on DVD in September, and Lionsgate sent DVDs to all 130,000 members of the Screen Actors Guild - even though only about 1,400 of them are members of the academy. Even the makers of Crash seemed stunned by the upset. "Lionsgate was brilliant in how they kept the film in people's minds," says Crash writer and director Paul Haggis. "They did a masterful marketing campaign on this. I really owe these Oscars (in his hand) to them. I had thought the DVD came out too early in September - and I was wrong. I thought November maybe, but that showed me I'm not meant to ever market a movie in my life." And the film did get a little hometown push, including from Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa. He "was wonderful to us," Haggis says. "He really embraced the film. He said 'Yes, this is our Los Angeles.' " Crash producer Cathy Schulman says the film's racial subject matter kept it "alive in the news. It was a film that for whatever reason, from a socio-political standpoint, it kept being discussed."
RaGeAnGeL sve e ova politika i nishto drugo
achtung_panzer
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Originally posted by RaGeAnGeL
sve e ova politika i nishto drugo
A lanskite oskari ne bea? A onie pred niv? [;)] Kje gi gledash i dogodina? [;)]
Lidija "Crash" na kakov i da e nacin go dobi Oskarot, definitivno e dosta zasluzen Oskar. "Crash", "Brokeback Mountain" & "The Constant Gardener" se tri klasiki za mene, vo edna godina tri tolku dobri filmoj nikogas se nema sluceno. E sega deka, pak spored mene, "Brokeback..." zasluzvase poke da bidi najdobar film nego "Crash" to e treto. Oskar, glasanjeto sekogas e tolku apla konzervativno i na nekoj nacin namesteno, toj/tie so gi zafrknaja ova godina t.e BM-drustvoto ke im vratat drug pat ko ke se nominirani.
RaGeAnGeL
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Originally posted by achtung_panzer
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Originally posted by RaGeAnGeL
sve e ova politika i nishto drugo
A lanskite oskari ne bea? A onie pred niv? [;)] Kje gi gledash i dogodina? [;)]
da i?
sasha Ziveejki vo LA mnogu godini i kako svedok na site nastani tuka..."Crash" e odlicen odraz na sve sto se deshava vo ova opstestvo..Odlicen Film, odlicna gluma, odlicna "casting group"...Zasluzen Oscar!
RaGeAnGeL sashke...filmot jes da e snimen LA ama ne bese za LA nego opshto za Amerika i za ubeduvanjeto deka ne se rasisti a I TO KAKO SE!AMA to ne e neshto novo ovdeka...od 1950 pa navaka go tupet so to pa to pa to.
sasha Koga napisav pogore .."vo ova opshtestvo" toa se misli za cela Amerka:)
DJ_SHEMA Rage, ako amerikancite se rasisti togash zapadna evropa ne znam shto se. Zoshto za takva otvorena diskriminacija nema seushte zbor.
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Rage, ako amerikancite se rasisti togash zapadna evropa ne znam shto se. Zoshto za takva otvorena diskriminacija nema seushte zbor.
sakas da mi kazis deka amerika ne e rasisticka zemja?ili ima podobar nacin za mackanje na oci od zapadna evropa?
sasha Rage...how about France, Germany?....sum ziveela vo FR znam kako e!
RaGeAnGeL ne meshajte de temi ....poentata na filmov i mojov muabet e deka NE E SE TAKA ROZEVO kako sho mislet ,jas edno kazvam vie go vrtite muabetov na drugo filmov e za usa ne za Francija
sasha Se nadevam deka razbiras so sakavme da ti kazeme..FR e samo cisto kako peimer daden, kako drzava od Z. Evropa kade so strasno ima i rasizam i diskriminacija....idemo dalje
OooOo Diskriminacija postoi vo US, no vo mnogu pomala mera nego niz Evropa. Inache filmov go nemam gledano.
RaGeAnGeL cel muabet od kontekst izleze a jas ne znam zs?:)Komentarive moj se za FILMOV "CRASH" i USA.Tolku! Fakt e deka ovdeka ne e tolku golem rasizmot ko vo Evropa...AMA ne e ni tolku super kako sho lugevo odstrana gledet!Ova go baziram na licno i samo licno iskustvo posebno za crncive.Totalno mi se smena razmisluvanjeto od ko dojdov ovde.
sasha Ok...sakate topic za ova nov da se otvori...sto mislite?
wolf_pack Crash е супер филм, супер сценарио! Не е вистинска приказна, дури и до некаде се генерализира ама барем се прикажува животот на средната и пониската класа во Америка. Режисерот не се срами да користи екстремни термини како: spic, towel-head, nigger, што и е малку чудно што освои оскарот. Али добро е кога има вакви филмови, ми се смачи од политичките-точни Холивудски фантазии.
achtung_panzer
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Originally posted by achtung_panzer
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Originally posted by RaGeAnGeL
sve e ova politika i nishto drugo
A lanskite oskari ne bea? A onie pred niv? [;)] Kje gi gledash i dogodina? [;)]
da i?
Pa shto togash se zhalish koga sekoja godina e ista prikazna, od toa koi filmovi/politichki tripovi vlegle vo selekcija do toa koj i zoshto go dobiva. Preskokni gi fino dogodina i kje imash prichina pomalce za cimolenje [;)] Wolfie se chudi kako so takov jazik vo filmot dobile oskar; sporedeno so kolichinata na dekadencija kaj ostatokot od konk*rentite, jazikot vo "Crash" e najmalo zlo (pederi-kaubojci, poet-svodnik, k*rva-filozof, homo-pisatel, transseksualci)... pa ne se ludi holivudskite "selektori" da si ja sechat grankata na kojashto sedat (profitot od DVD): ako treba da pobedi pishijada, podobro da e crno-bela pishijada otkolku pederska...
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Pa shto togash se zhalish koga sekoja godina e ista prikazna, od toa koi filmovi/politichki tripovi vlegle vo selekcija do toa koj i zoshto go dobiva. Preskokni gi fino dogodina i kje imash prichina pomalce za cimolenje
cimolenje mi e hobi...ko tebe so ti e ***********(edit)
sasha A da ne zabeguvame od Topicov ako moze!
profa I za kakva politika zborite tuka so oskarite be,bas me interesira? ..................... Crash e mnog dobar film,mnogu aktuelen ,realen i oskarite so si gi dobi bea zasluzeni isto kako i kaj Brokeback.Duri i ako gi zirnete kritikite ke vidite deka rejtingot na Crash bese duri i povisok od onoj na BrokeBack.Oskarot za picture samo mozese da otide vo racete na BrokeBack timot,toa bese delot so ne mi se svigase i original song oskarot.Drugoto bese ok i ne mislam deka sevo ovaa otvara golemi pricini za diskusii