Ancient pyramids in Bosnia
Scientists in the Bosnian city of Visoko have begun excavating a site that is believed to hold Europe's first known pyramids.
The pyramids have not been uncovered yet, but satellite images of the area show three pyramid-shaped hills about 650 metres high.
They have been named the Pyramids of the Sun, the Moon and the Dragon and are believed to be 2,000 years old.
Early excavations show what appears to be a network of tunnels several kilometres long that connect the pyramids.
Several Bosnian archaeologists and local miners descended into one of the tunnels early Friday morning hoping it would lead them to the gates of the pyramid site.
"We are going to prove that man made objects of stone blocks, and stone plates were used in building the pyramid," said archaeologist Semir Osmanagic.
Osmanagic, a 45-year-old Bosnia who now lives in Houston, discovered the site last year after spending 15 years studying pyramids in Latin America.
He saw some odd-shaped hills in his Bosnia homeland that resembled the hills that had covered pyramids in Latin America.
He started to dig and soon uncovered a paved entrance plateau, underground tunnels and stone blocks which he believes are lying under a natural hill, shaped in the form of a pyramid built by an ancient civilization.
No pyramids are known to exist in Europe, and there is no evidence any ancient civilization there ever attempted to build one.
Piramidi vo Evropa pred 2000 godini? Pa kje imalo pishani svedoshtva za takvo neshto so vekovi posle nivnoto sozdavanje...
Da pogodam koj gi izgradil... Brus Li od Mostar?
Zarem ne e MALKU chudno shto niz arheoloshkite iskopini niz Bosna dosega ne se najdeni bilo kakvi pishani svedoshtva za bilo shto shto bi upatilo na postoenje na piramidi ili bilo kakov trag na civilizacija shto bi bila sposobna i motivirana da izgradi takvo neshto...
A bi bilo interesno OooOo da go kazhe izvorot na ovaa "informacija"...
Visoko, Bosnia-Herzegovina: Researchers on Wednesday unearthed geometrically cut stone slabs that they said could form part of the sloping surface of what they believe is an ancient pyramid lying beneath a huge hill.
Archaeologists and other experts began digging at this central Bosnian town last week to explore the team leader's theory that the 2,120-foot hill covers a step pyramid, which would be the first ever found in Europe.
"These are the first uncovered walls of the pyramid," Semir Osmanagic, a Bosnian archaeologist who studied the pyramids of Latin America for 15 years, said of the stonework found Wednesday.
"We can see the surface is perfectly flat. This is the crucial material proof that we are talking pyramids," he said.
Osmanagic believes the structure will prove to be 722 feet high, or a third taller than Egypt's Great Pyramid of Giza.
The huge stone blocks discovered Wednesday appeared to be cut in cubes and polished.
"It is so obvious that the top of the blocks, the surface is man-made," Osmanagic said.
Earlier research on the hill, known as Visocica, found that it has 45-degree slopes pointing toward the cardinal points and a flat top. Under layers of dirt, workers discovered a paved entrance plateau, entrances to tunnels and large stone blocks.
Satellite photographs and thermal imaging revealed two other, smaller pyramid-shaped hills in the Visoko Valley.
Last week's excavations began with a team of rescue workers from a nearby coal mine being sent into a tunnel believed to be part of an underground network connecting the three pyramid-shaped hills.
They were followed by archeologists, geologists and other experts who emerged from the tunnel later to declare that it was certainly man-made.
The work at Visoko, about 20 miles northwest of Sarajevo, will continue for about six months. Two experts from Egypt are due to join the team in mid-May.
"It will be a very exciting archaeological spring and summer," Osmanagic said.
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| Originally posted by deni ahtunk pancer i satelitski snimki pokazuvat oti ima piramida pod toa brdoto . |
Dobra gandzha i do satelitski visochini kje te izdiga Nego kasno neshto so "otkritijata", pomina prvi april...
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| Originally posted by OooOo achtung ako nemash shto da kazhesh, ne unishtuvaj tema. |
Straotno zachadenata rasprava prodolzhuva tuka:
http://forums.vmacedonia.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15077
uste malku pa...:):)!!
http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/osmanagic/index.html
Dali e piramida?
Arheologijata e nesmneno protiv teorijata za piramida.
Semir trgnuva od nekoj dokazi za da ja gradi svojata hipoteza shto izlegoa vo poslednive nekolku godini i koja e eden vid na motiv vo seta afera.Spored Genetsko-antropoloskite istrazuvanja koj se izvrsija vo minatata godina i koj gi opfatija site Balkanski nacii
proizleguva deka Dinarskiot antropoloski tip e vsusnost predok na edna grupa na luge koj go preziveala poslednoto ledeno vreme.Dinarskiot antropoloski tip do pred nekolku godini se objasnuvase kako mutacija megu Atlantskiot i Mediteranskiot tip.
Najnovite istrazuvanja gi otfrlija ovie tezi i ja potvrdija tezata na eden geneticar Semino koj ja iznese teorijata deka vo predelot od Istra preku Dinarite opstanala endemicna grupa na luge koj go preziveale ledenoto vreme.Vo procenti najmnogu geni ima vo Hercegovina i Bosna.Podatocite objaveni se kon krajot na 2005 godina
i celata statija moze da se procita ovde:
http://vetinari.sitesled.com/slavic.pdf
Amateur archaeologist dismisses controversy, says he'll be proven right
It's either one of the greatest archaeological discoveries of our time, or man has made a giant pyramid out of a molehill.
In the wake of recent news that evidence of colossal pyramids had been found in the small Bosnian town of Visoko, many in the archaeological community are speaking out and dismissing both the discovery and the man who made it, businessman Semir Osmanagic.
Some critics have gone as far as to call the pyramid an absurd publicity stunt.
But Osmanagic stands by his claim.
"They are jealous," Osmanagic told LiveScience in a telephone interview. "These people are going crazy because they've been teaching students that these [Bosnians] were cavemen, and all of a sudden they are finding complex structures here."
Osmanagic first noticed the irregularly shaped hills on a trip to the town, located 18 miles north of Sarajevo, in April of 2005. Preliminary digging uncovered mysterious slabs in a stone not native to the immediate area. Further excavation of the hills in April of this year, along with the incredible announcement that one would be much larger than the great pyramid of Cheops at Giza, Egypt, prompted the most recent news release.
Satellite images, thermal analysis and radar studies have been performed at the site, all independently confirming the existence of pyramid-shaped architecture, according to Osmanagic. More importantly, he said, the tests suggest that the layout could not have been man-made.
Photos released by the media and made available on Osmanagic's website show a series of stone plates buried just beneath the top layer of soil and vegetation. Despite the tests and pictures, some archaeologists aren't convinced by his claims.
"Clearly there are voids or something similar in the rock, but that is a long way from saying these are man-made," said Anthony Harding, president of the European Association of Archaeologists.
The pyramids could be upwards of 12,000 years old, Osmanagic has deduced, based on geological knowledge of the area. That is a main point of contention for specialists concerned with the archaeology in the Balkan region.
"Europe was in the late Upper Paleolithic at this point and no one was building anything except flimsy huts," Harding said.
Workers at Visoko are spending this dig season sending twelve probing wells into different spots on the hill. Radiocarbon dating on organic material taken from the site may be performed as early as this fall, Osmanagic said.
Critics blast Osmanagic's background
Whatever the outcome of the tests, critics also charge that the media did not do enough research into the background of Osmanagic, who has no formal archaeological training.
"A self-described archaeologist, who believes the Maya and others are descended from Atlanteans ... has been accepted as a legitimate researcher by many news outlets," writes Archaeology magazine online editor Mark Rose, in reference to Osmanagic's somewhat unorthodox interpretation of the Mayan culture found in his book, "The World of the Maya" (Gorgias Press, Euphrates imprint, 2005). The Bosnian spent fifteen years studying pyramids throughout the world and much of that time was in Mexico and Central America.
Many of those conducting the fieldwork at Visoko are local volunteers, not professionals. Experts worry that the often arduous scientific process is being eschewed in favor of some quick publicity for the country of Bosnia-Herzegovina, which has been hungry for good press after years of civil conflict dogged it in the 1990s.
"It adds insult to injury when rich outsiders can come in and spend large sums pursuing their absurd theories (the construction of a colossal pyramid so large that it dwarfs even those of Egypt or Mesoamerica? 12,000 years ago?), in ways that most other countries would never countenance," Harding wrote in an April 25 letter to the editor of The London Times.
Work is slated to continue at Visoko through at least 2010, by which time Osmanagic believes the research will have vindicated his theories. Meanwhile, he isn't worried that what he's found does not mesh with current thinking.
"We laugh at the people who said that the world was flat, and they laughed at Galileo," he said. "The history books will just have to be rewritten from scratch, that's all."
vistinskoto arheoloshko otkritie
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| Originally posted by achtung_panzer Za toa vreme, troa pojuzhno od "piramidive", vistinski arheoloshki otkritija pod nadzor na vistinski arheolog i bez potreba od prepishuvanje na istorijata: vistinskoto arheoloshko otkritie |
E ajde de , na koj ke kazhesh.
Sho li ke beshe tolkav publicitet na Bosanskive piramidi niz belosvetskava medija a? Senzacionalizam? Propaganda? Bez ogled na toa dali ima ili nema piramidi, vremeto ke kazhi, a ovie(medijata) gladni za senzacija nebare udarna vest ja napraija.
Propaganda?
Politika ?
I don't know.
Arheoloshko golemo naogjalishte?
Ajde ke vidime, se e mozhno.
Inaku za ostatoci od naselbi stari 7000 godini nekako za belosvetskava medija ne se tolku vredni za malku poveke vnimanie.
Politika?
Propaganda?
I don't know.
Inace ovde na severot pa ne stigna glas za tie bosanskite piramidi, to samo vo Amerikata izgleda. Tuku ova kaj nas sega pa ti achtung sega ti so nevidenite piramidi go sporedvas, aj sega ne zafrkavaj :))) i mesaj babi i zabi :)))) SE SMEAM!!!
Inaku, tipov kao navodno sam ke go finansira iskopuvanjeto so svoi pari (btw, drugarka mi iskopala deka podnel aplikacija za grant vo nekoja fondacija ovde, vo USA); tipov kao navodno rabotel za NASA (vsusnost, imal internship za vreme na doktorskite studii) i ne e mnogu verojatno deka nekoj mu dozvolil na relativno nov doktor po arheologija da cepka po takvo vredno bogatsvo kako sto se piramidite po juzna Amerika....
Edna smesna informacija vo vrska so piramidive: po e-mail se vrti vic za sve ova. Visoko, gradov bil poznat po sudzuk kolbasi vo Bosna i vicov e demek egipetski faraon cul za sudzukot of Visoko i se potegnal da si kupi i da go proba. Arno ama, umrel na ekspedicijava za kolbasi i na Egipjanite ne im se isplatelo da go vrakjaat nazad, pa mu napravile piramida vo Bosna. Ja napravile poshirochka da im se najde ako pritreba za uste nekoj...
Inaku sigurno e piramida,ne e topka nitu kocka.Kamenjata se raboteni od luge...im potvrdi Egipetski geolog.Nesto naogjaat,a sto e bar do sega nikoj nema pojma.Imaat snimki od nekolku sateliti,pa sigurno i Nato e vmesan vo politikata.Za edno znam deka pola od naodite ne gi objavuvaat...zosto?- ne znam.Najdoa i mumificirano telo koe mu go pokazaa na premierot na BiH i nekako slikata izleze na videlo,no od Semir za ova ne dobi javnosta potvrda.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_pyramids
VO edna od negovite knigi - The World of the Maya (Gorgias Press, Euphrates imprint, 2005; $29.95) ova ima napisano:
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| Ordinary watchmakers repair our watches and put them into accordance with Earthly time. It is my theory that the Maya should be considered watchmakers of the cosmos whose mission it is to adjust the Earthly frequency and bring it into accordance with the vibrations of our Sun. Once the Earth begins to vibrate in harmony with the Sun, information will be able to travel in both directions without limitation. And then we will be able to understand why all ancient peoples worshipped the Sun and dedicated their rituals to this. The Sun is the source of all life on this planet and the source of all information and knowledge. ...And with a frequency in harmony, the Earth will, via the Sun, be connected with the center of our Galaxy. These facts become exceptionally important when we realize that we are rapidly approaching December 2012, a date which the Maya have marked as the time of arrival of the Galactic Energy Cluster which will enlighten us. The descendants of the Maya, the Lacandon Indians in Chiapas were discovered in the mid-twentieth century. This isolated community showed a surprising similarity to the Basque and Berber peoples (most probable descendants of the natives of Atlantis).... In the sacred Mayan book, the Popul Vuh, there are descriptions of cosmic travelers, the use of the compass, the fact that the Earth is round, and knowledge of the secrets of the universe.... The Mayan hieroglyphics tell us that their ancestors came from the Pleiades... first arriving at Atlantis where they created an advanced civilization. Many cultures around the world, from India, Sumeria, Egypt, Peru, the Indians of North and Central America, the Inca and the Maya, call themselves the "Children of the Sun" or the "children of light." Their ancestors, the civilizations of Atlantis and Lemuria, erected the first temples on energy potent point of the Planet. Their most important function was to serve as a gateway to other worlds and dimensions. |
