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April 17, 2006

COUNTRY DESCRIPTION: Macedonia is a parliamentary democracy that is
steadily transforming its economy. Tourist facilities are available
in the capital, Skopje, and other major towns. In tourist centers,
such as Skopje and Ohrid, European-standard hotels and other travel
amenities are available, while the standard of facilities throughout
the country varies considerably. Read the Department of State
Background Notes on Macedonia for additional information.

ENTRY AND EXIT REQUIREMENTS: U.S. citizens need a passport to enter
Macedonia. A visa for Macedonia is not required for tourist/business
purposes for stays up to 90 days. For stays longer than 90 days,
American citizens need to obtain the appropriate visa at a Macedonian
Embassy or Consulate prior to their trip. Additional information on
entry requirements may be obtained from the Macedonian Embassy at 2129
Wyoming Ave. NW, Washington, DC, 20008, telephone (202) 337-3063, fax
(202) 337-3093, or the Macedonian Consulate General in Detroit, 2000
Town Center, Suite 1130, Southfield, MI 48075, telephone (248)
354-5537, fax (248) 354-5538. See our Foreign Entry Requirements
brochure for more information on Macedonia and other countries. Visit
the Embassy of Macedonia web site at http://www.macedonianembassy.org
or http://www.mfa.gov.mk/default_en.asp for the most current visa
information.

Foreigners, including American citizens, who enter Macedonia and plan
to stay in private accommodations, are required to register with the
nearest police station within three days. Foreigners staying in
hotels are not required to register, as the hotel is responsible for
registration with the police. Persons who overstay their visas should
contact the branch office of the Ministry of Interior near their place
of residence to obtain an exit visa; failure to do so may result in
difficulties in departing the country.

Travelers should be aware that all immediate border areas apart from
designated border crossings are restricted zones. Presence in these
zones is forbidden without prior official permission.

See Entry and Exit Requirements for more information pertaining to
dual nationality and the international child abduction. Please refer
to our Customs Information to learn more about customs regulations

SAFETY AND SECURITY
The security situation in Macedonia is stable, although occasional
criminal violence does occur. Americans should avoid areas with
demonstrations, strikes, or roadblocks where large crowds are
gathered, particularly those involving political causes or striking
workers.

For the latest security information, Americans traveling abroad should
regularly monitor the State Department's Internet web site at where
the current Worldwide Caution Public Announcement, Travel Warnings and
Public Announcements can be found.

Up-to-date information on safety and security can also be obtained by
calling 1-888-407-4747 toll free in the U.S., or for callers outside
the U.S. and Canada, a regular toll-line at 1-202-501-4444. These
numbers are available from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Eastern Time, Monday
through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays).

The Department of State urges American citizens to take responsibility
for their own personal security while traveling overseas. For general
information about appropriate measures travelers can take to protect
themselves in an overseas environment, see the Department of State's
pamphlet A Safe Trip Abroad.


CRIME: Crime in Macedonia is low by U.S. standards and violent crime
against Americans is rare. Pick pocketing, theft, and other petty
street crimes do occur, however, particularly in areas where tourists
and foreigners congregate. American travelers are advised to take the
same precautions against becoming crime victims as they would in any
American city. Valuables, including cell phones and electronic items,
should not be left in plain view in unattended vehicles. Windows and
doors should be securely locked when residences are uninhabited.
Organized crime is present in Macedonia, which occasionally results in
violent confrontations between rival organizations. ATM use is safe
as long as standard safety precautions are taken.

INFORMATION FOR VICTIMS OF CRIME: If you are a victim of a crime
while overseas, in addition to reporting to the local police, please
contact the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate for assistance. The
Embassy/Consulate staff can, for example, assist you to find
appropriate medical care, to contact family members or friends, and
explain how funds could be transferred. Although the investigation
and prosecution of the crime is solely the responsibility of local
authorities, consular officers can help you to understand the local
criminal justice process and find an attorney if needed.

See our information on Victims of Crime

MEDICAL FACILITIES AND HEALTH INFORMATION: Although many Macedonian
physicians are trained to a high standard, most hospitals and clinics
are generally not equipped and maintained at U.S. or Western European
standards. Basic medical supplies are usually available, but
specialized treatment may not be obtainable. Travelers with
previously diagnosed medical conditions may wish to consult their
physician before travel.

Information on vaccinations and other health precautions, such as safe
food and water precautions and insect bite protection, may be obtained
from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's hotline for
international travelers at 1-877-FYI-TRIP (1-877-394-8747) or via the
CDC's internet site at http://www.cdc.gov/travel. For information
about outbreaks of infectious diseases abroad consult the World Health
Organization's (WHO) website at http://www.who.int/en. Further health
information for travelers is available at http://www.who.int/ith.


MEDICAL INSURANCE: The Department of State strongly urges Americans
to consult with their medical insurance company prior to traveling
abroad to confirm whether their policy applies overseas and whether it
will cover emergency expenses such as a medical evacuation. Please
see our information on medical insurance overseas.

TRAFFIC SAFETY AND ROAD CONDITIONS: While in a foreign country, U.S.
citizens may encounter road conditions that differ significantly from
those in the United States. The information below concerning
Macedonia is provided for general reference only, and may not be
totally accurate in a particular location or circumstance.

Driving safely in Macedonia requires excellent defensive driving
skills. Many drivers routinely ignore speed limits and other traffic
regulations, such as stopping for red lights and stop signs. Drivers
may make illegal left turns from the far right lane, and drive into
oncoming lanes of traffic. The combination of speeding, unsafe
driving practices, poor vehicle maintenance, and the mixture of new
and old vehicles on the roads contributes to unsafe driving
conditions. Macedonia is one of the highest-ranked countries in the
world for per capita traffic-related fatalities. Pedestrians should
use crosswalks and take extreme care when crossing the street.

A valid U.S. driver's license in conjunction with an International
Driving Permit is required for Americans driving in Macedonia.
Driving is on the right side of the road. Speed limits are generally
posted. Most major highways are in good repair, but many secondary
urban and rural roads are poorly maintained and lit. Horse-drawn
carts, livestock, dead animals, rocks, or other objects are often
found in the roadway. Some vehicles are old and lack standard front
or rear lights. Secondary mountain roads can be narrow and poorly
marked, lack guardrails, and quickly become dangerous in inclement
weather. Overall, public transportation in Macedonia is dilapidated.
Roadside emergency services are limited.

In case of emergency, drivers may contact the police at telephone 192,
the Ambulance Service at telephone 194, and Roadside Assistance at
telephone 196.

Please refer to our Road Safety page for more information.

AVIATION SAFETY OVERSIGHT: As there is no direct commercial air
service between the United States and Macedonia, the U.S. Federal
Aviation Administration (FAA) has not assessed Macedonia's Civil
Aviation Authority for compliance with ICAO international aviation
safety standards. For more information, travelers may visit the FAA's
Internet web site at
http://www.faa.gov/safety/programs_initiatives/oversight.iasa.

SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES: In addition to being subject to all Macedonian
laws affecting U.S. citizens, dual American-Macedonian nationals may
be subject to Macedonian laws that impose special obligations. Male
Macedonian citizens are subject to compulsory military draft
regulations. If such persons are found guilty of draft evasion in
Macedonia – or draft evasion from the former Yugoslavia prior to 1991
– they are subject to prosecution by Macedonian authorities. Those
who might be affected should inquire at a Macedonian Embassy or
Consulate outside Macedonia regarding their status before travel.

Macedonian customs authorities may enforce strict regulations
concerning temporary importation or export from Macedonia of certain
items, including items deemed to be of historical value or
significance. Taking photographs of anything that could be perceived
as being of military or security interest may result in problems with
authorities. Visitors should always observe, "no photographing,"
signs. If in doubt, please ask permission before taking photographs.

The local currency is the denar. While credit cards are accepted in
larger stores and restaurants, cash in local currency is advised for
purchases in small establishments.

Please see our information on Customs Information .

CRIMINAL PENALTIES: While in a foreign country, a U.S. citizen is
subject to that country's laws and regulations, which sometimes differ
significantly from those in the United States and may not afford the
protections available to the individual under U.S. law. Penalties for
breaking the law can be more severe than in the United States for
similar offenses. Persons violating Macedonia laws, even unknowingly,
may be expelled, arrested or imprisoned. Penalties for possession,
use, or trafficking in illegal drugs in Macedonia are severe, and
convicted offenders can expect long jail sentences and heavy fines.
Engaging in sexual conduct with children or using or disseminating
child pornography in a foreign country is a crime, prosecutable in the
United States. Please see our information on Criminal Penalties.

CHILDREN'S ISSUES: For information on international adoption of
children and international parental child abduction, see the Office of
Children's Issues website.


REGISTRATION AND EMBASSY LOCATION: Americans living or traveling in
Macedonia are encouraged to register with the nearest U.S. Embassy or
Consulate through the State Department's travel registration website
and to obtain updated information on travel and security within
Macedonia. Americans without Internet access may register directly
with the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate. By registering, American
citizens make it easier for the Embassy or Consulate to contact them
in case of emergency. The U.S. Embassy in Skopje is located at
Ilindenska bb, 1000 Skopje, tel. (389) (2) 311-6180, fax (389) (2)
321-3767, email: [email protected]. Registration forms are
available on the Embassy's website, located at:
http://skopje.usembassy.gov.


* * *
This replaces the Consular Information Sheet dated November 14, 2005
to update sections on Safety and Security, Crime, and Traffic Safety
and Road Conditions.
achtung_panzer >> Many drivers routinely ignore speed limits and other traffic
regulations, such as stopping for red lights and stop signs. Drivers
may make illegal left turns from the far right lane, and drive into
oncoming lanes of traffic.
<<

Ah, demek ova niz Amerika go nema?
concrete
quote:
Originally posted by achtung_panzer

>> Many drivers routinely ignore speed limits and other traffic
regulations, such as stopping for red lights and stop signs. Drivers
may make illegal left turns from the far right lane, and drive into
oncoming lanes of traffic.
<<

Ah, demek ova niz Amerika go nema?


Go ima , ama amerikancive se drzat do starata Rimska : Sto e za Bogovi, ne e za Volovi......t.e. vo slucajov F.I.R-ovci he,he,he !!!!
Se zezam, poveke se odnesuva na priuceni oficeri na pecalba, od Evropskite zemji , posebno nordiskite .......
Satanico Pandemonium
quote:
Originally posted by achtung_panzer

>> Many drivers routinely ignore speed limits and other traffic
regulations, such as stopping for red lights and stop signs. Drivers
may make illegal left turns from the far right lane, and drive into
oncoming lanes of traffic.
<<

Ah, demek ova niz Amerika go nema?


Panzer,

Sekogas koga odam za MK i probam da vozam, razlikata e OGROMNA! Mislam deka prakticki nemozam da vozam vo MK i veke ne se usuduvam da go pravam toa i toa e poentata na State Departmentot izvestajot. Izvestajot e za Amerikanci i sto da ocekuvaat vo drugi drzavi. Sum vozel vo drugi Evropski drzavi no vozenjeto e slika i prilika na drzavata vo celost. Vo Makedonija za zal pominuvanja na crveno, nasilno vozenje kade sekoj saka prv da pomine, generalno kompletno nepocituvanje na zakonite e pravilo. Vo Amerika e toa isklucok a i tie isklucoci ako gi pravis podolgo vreme prasanje e samo na vreme koga zakonot ke te stigne i ke ti opnat kazna i osiguranjeto odi gore. Vo Makedonija i drug koga me vozi strav me faka vo kola koga ke vidam kako koli jurisaat na drugi koli i pesaci...Stalno ocekuvam nesreka. A i nesrekite se pocesti tamu odkolku vo USA.

Vozev so eden drugar pred godina dena vo Italija i imase razlika od USA, no vo MK bese mnogu , mnogu poloso. Drugarot otide za Liban posle toa i se uste ima traumi. Se uste koga ke mu se spomene taa zemja samo za toa zboruva. Iznajmil kola i site bile zacudeni kako e mozno stranec da iznajmuva kola. Posle videl na sto mislele. Znaci ima i beter od MK, slika i prilika e na drzavata toa.

Inaku ovie izvestaji na State Departmentot se voglavnom tocni, tocno kazuvaat sto Amerikanec moze da ocekuva vo drga drzava, od sto da se pazi i na sto da vnimava. Sum bil vo dosta drzavi i sekogas se pokazale ispravni izvestaive vo glavnom. Tie bar imaat nekoj info za svoite koj odat vo stranstvo za razlika od MK na koja informaciite za svoite gragjani vo stranstvo i se totalno oskudni.
Aleksandra "Horse-drawn carts, livestock, dead animals, rocks, or other objects are often found in the roadway"

nukleus I zatoa stancite vozat vo sprotiven pravec po ednosmernite lenti na avtopatite niz Makedonija.Pri toa treba da se zeme vo predvid deka voopshto ne odgovaraat za ubistvata shto gi vrshat so svoite nabildani voeni vozila.
nukleus Автобусите, комбињата и колите на изборниот карван на Коалицијата "За Македонија - заедно", кои од сите делови на Македонија завчера дојдоа на конвенција во Скопје, не плаќаа патарина. Рампите на наплатните станици низ цела Македонија беа кренати за карванот. Се пропуштаа сите автобуси од кои се вееја знамиња на СДСМ и коалицијата, а рампата се креваше уште од далеку кога вработените на патарините ќе забележеа дека доаѓа автобус со изборен плакат од премиерот Владо Бучковски залепен на шофершајбната. Возачите на автобусите, место да платат, само им креваа рака на луѓето од патарините во знак на поздрав и без застанување ги одминуваа. Застануваа само колите и комбињата на кои немаше партиски ознаки. Тие на вработените на патарините само им кажуваа дека се со карванот и рампите се креваа.
Од наплатните станици завчера ни рекоа дека им стигнала наредба од Управата да ги пропуштаат возилата од карванот, па затоа без приговор ги кревале рампите. Тие мака мачеа со возачите кои не беа од карванот и од кои се бараше да си ја платат патарината, а пред нив минуваа возилата од карванот без воопшто да застанат.
Дуфе Кукоски, директор на "Македонија пат", во чија надлежност се наплатните станици, пак, вели дека тој не издал таква наредба.
"Јас не сум дал наредба, ниту сум кажал да се кренат рампите и да се пропуштаат возилата од карванот. Можеби возачите на автобусите сами си земале право да не плаќаат патарина, што често и се случува. Ниту некој ме прашал, ниту побарал од мене возилата да се ослободат од плаќање", рече Кукоски.
Борис Кондарко, портпарол на СДСМ, вчера ни рече оти не е точно дека автобусите кои доаѓаа во Скопје на митингот не плаќале патарина. "Секој прв автобус од колоната плаќал патарина за останатите за да нема застој во сообраќајот на наплатните рампи и на автопатиштата", ни изјави вчера Кондарко.
По десетина минути тој се премисли, па ни рече дека автобусите не платиле патарина, бидејќи договорот бил таа да се плати по конвенцијата и тоа на фактура.
Но откако поминаа уште десет минути Кондарко се јави со трета изјава.
"Во цената што ја плативме за автобусите што ги изнајмивме од транспортните претпријатија беше пресметана и патарината. Ние си дадовме пари за патарина, но не знаеме што се случувало на наплатните рампи", ни рече Кондарко.
Трите различни изјави Кондарко ги оправда со тоа што морал да се јави на многу луѓе, па целата работа станала расипан телефон.
И полицијата завчера не преземаше мерки против автобусите, колите и комбињата кои не плаќаа патарина. Тие се координираа со вработените на патарините и немо гледаа како возилата ги одминуваат рампите.
Mozebi i vo Amerika e taka?.............
Satanico Pandemonium
quote:
Originally posted by nukleus

I zatoa stancite vozat vo sprotiven pravec po ednosmernite lenti na avtopatite niz Makedonija.Pri toa treba da se zeme vo predvid deka voopshto ne odgovaraat za ubistvata shto gi vrshat so svoite nabildani voeni vozila.


SLusaj, nema coek sto zivee nadvor , na primer vo USA posto zbor stana za USA i sto ke ti kaze iskustvoto na vozenje vo MK e isto so vo USA. Nema takov. Postov e za izvestajot od State Deparmtentot i ima za cel da ja docara taa razlika za lugje od USA koj ne se naviknati na vozenje kako vo MK.


Na strana sega, off topic za Norveskite vojnici. Kolku i da ni e krivo, tie se vo pravo za slucajot koj go spomenuvas. Gi znam detalite na slucajot. Za razlika od site normalni mesta,vozenjeto po avtopat e striktno regulirano. Na mestoto kade se sluci nesreka voopsto prvo (ako ne znaes od porano) ne se gleda deka se vleguva vo avtopat. Dvata pravci se na razlicni nivoa (sto e no, no pri gradenje na avtopat) i od ednata lenta voopsto ne se gleda drugata lenta, toest sprotivniot pravec. Na vlezot vo avtopat voopsto ne stoi znak vo koj pravec da se vleguva! Vo USA na primer e nevozmozno da vlezes vo pogresna lenta na avtopat. A i da ima mesta kade mozes da vlezes segdeka ima ogromni znakovi WRONG WAY. Vamu, kade nesrekata e slucena nema nikakvi znaci i ne e prvpat vakov problem da ima. Norveskite vojnici se oslobodeni bas na taa osnova, deka ednostavno voopsto ne ni mozele da znaat deka se vo pogresna lenta! Nas moze da ni e krivo, no taka e, osnovni standardi se nema vo nisto, pa ni kaj avtopatite.
nukleus Dodusha nie nemame "wrong way" znaci na avtopatite koj teshko bea oshteteni od NATO trupite i nikogash ne se popraveni.A faktot deka se vozi vo sprotivna nasoka ostanuva i ponatamu osobeno za nekoi koj sakaat mornicava zabava i igraat "Ruski rulet" ostanuva.Sepak i jas go znam mestoto na incidentot i mozam da ti kazam deka treba vistinska umeshnost da vozish tolku dolgo vo sprotivna nasoka osobeno dokolku ucesnicite vo sobrajkajot te opomenuvaat pri sekoe "raziduvanje" kako shto sigurno bil slucajot so Norvezanite a da ne zborime i za faktot shto istite tie Norvezani najmalku 100tina pati go pominale toj pat pa i magare da beshe ke nauceshe.
трендафил Албанците, дури и криминалците, привремено не напаѓаат Американци. Барем не до признавањето на Косово. Затоа и привремено е зголемена сигурноста на американците и другите од т.н. меѓународна заедница. Ова всушност само потврдува дека водачите на албанската мафија ја водат и политиката. Друга работа е дали по признавањето на Косово албанските муслимани нема да станат солидарни со своите муслимански браќа. Не се продава за џабе на Бит Пазар ДВД со злосторствата на сојузниците во Ирак. Злосторствата врз цивилите Македонци и Албанци што беа против ОНА (сега ДУИ) во војната во 2001 година Албанците не ги интересираат. Ниту злосторствата на Садам во Ирак или ТАлибанците во Авганистан.

toni_a koga gi gledam amerive tuka kako vozat se prashuvam dali na zhdrepka gi vlechat dozvolite vo USA.katastrofa se...

na zapad ima mnogu pokomplicirani ulici i raskrsnici nego MK.toa so natovcite mi e ushte neobjasnivo.se mislam deka neshto ne bile pri sebe koga vozele.kojznae shto radijacija gi zrachi vo vozilata shteta samo shto nevini lugje stradaat
Satanico Pandemonium
quote:
Originally posted by трендафил

Албанците, дури и криминалците, привремено не напаѓаат Американци. Барем не до признавањето на Косово. Затоа и привремено е зголемена сигурноста на американците и другите од т.н. меѓународна заедница. Ова всушност само потврдува дека водачите на албанската мафија ја водат и политиката. Друга работа е дали по признавањето на Косово албанските муслимани нема да станат солидарни со своите муслимански браќа. Не се продава за џабе на Бит Пазар ДВД со злосторствата на сојузниците во Ирак. Злосторствата врз цивилите Македонци и Албанци што беа против ОНА (сега ДУИ) во војната во 2001 година Албанците не ги интересираат. Ниту злосторствата на Садам во Ирак или ТАлибанците во Авганистан.





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