Bugarute vo TMORO i Ilindensko vostanie

Bugarute vo TMORO i Ilindensko vostanie
bugarash	I zashto mi gi iztrivte dokumentite? Vi e strav od nih?
bugarash	quote: Originally posted by slasa quote: Originally posted by bugarash I zashto mi gi iztrivte dokumentite? Vi e strav od nih? od kogo be strav be tatare, daj adresa doma ti idam pa da vidis koj od kogo straf A zashto brishesh togash? fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate and hate leads to suffering
bugarasha	quote: Originally posted by slasa bugarinov e na ban kako i site bugari sto sirat lazna propaganda banirash me, a? nemash shto da odgovorish na moite dokumenti, neli?
bugarasha	quote: Originally posted by Korab quote: I ako VMRO bila bugarska organizacija, zosto se bori protiv bugarskite sovinisti i Bugarija? Imalo i drugi organizacii vo bugarija sto se borele protiv bugarskite sovinisti i aktuelnata bugarska vlast, pa ne gi pravi pomalku bugarski. Primer, vo toa vreme golem broj bugari, vidni gragjani od Bugarija(Peju Javorov, licen prijatel na Goce Delcev) se zalagale za politicko nemesanje na drzavata vo borbata na VMRO tuku samo da se pomaga finanskiski. Eve shto pishuva lichniot prijatel na Goce, koj ne bil shovinist... С кръвта си кръст ще начертая От Дунава до Егея бял И от албанските пустини До черноморските води! A vo edna stihotvorba, posvetena na Todor Aleksandrov pishuva: А Вардар, Дунав и Марица, Балкана, Странджа и Пирин сте греят нам - до гроб зарица сред споменът един. A eve i shto pishuva vo biografijata na Delchev za nego: – Българите в Македония носят почти сами върху гърба си товара на революцията – и те са нужни, за да се продължи борбата ни, докато постигнем крайната си цел. – Разбира се, друго е, ако бихме имали една нова гръцко-турска или някоя сръбско-турска, или най-после българо-турска война; обаче лошо бихме отплатили на България за многобройните нейни жертви подир нас, ако искаме да я вкараме боса в огъня. Тъй учеше Гоце...
bugarasha	Bidejki pak ke me banirash, ti pozelavam prijatno prekarvane v izmislenija ti svet
Leopold	quote: Originally posted by slasa vidi Jas imam bideno na konferencija vo Istambul, naucni simpozium i duri tamu se zdeckavne , Taka gi ucat vo nivnite skoli deka nema Makedonija i deka nema makedonci . jas vo turcija mu vlepiv samar na eden bugarski profesor , koj bas za srejkata imase sednato do mene , А така, и тоа ти беа аргументите, нели? Бравос! Е па нема начин да не го убедите цел свет во що сакате, смее ли некой да каже нещо>........
Leopold	quote: Originally posted by Anna_Black quote: Originally posted by Anna_Black Sega eden izvadok od razgovorot pomegu Goce Delcev I generalot Danail Hikolaev, “Ne, nie ne sme soglasni so toa sto Vie go mislite za Makedonija. Nie, znaete koi sme nie: selanite, makedonskoto naselenie, narodot. Nie ne mozeme da pravime politika, nitu pak ke dozvolime driugi da pravat politika so Makedonija. Nasata borba, toa e za nas zivot ili smrt. Nie nema da dozvolime drugi da resavaat dali nie ke ziveeme ili da umreme i koga. Koga ke se podiga vostanie ke resi narodot. Nema da dozvolime da ni komanduvate od tuka za da ne vnesete vo igra na vostanie, kako sto se obidovte lani (se odnesuva na 1895) … Nie smetame deka od vas – od Komitetot i od emigracijata moze da dobieme bratska pomos. No znajte, nie ne barame pokroviteli, a uste pomalku gospodari.” Kako bese uste ednas? Deka Goce e Bugarin? Е па щом той лично така тврди..... Но секако, ако Донски е на друго мнение - ноу проблем, йеби га ........
Leopold	quote: Originally posted by sea_foam quote: Originally posted by mnik quote: Originally posted by sea_foam Just 2 points : 1. the organization si called Vatreshno makedono-odrinska oragnizacia.If we assume that there were Macedonians in Macedonia at that time ,what Macedonians were there in Eastern Thrace !?!?!?Sounds illogical,doesn't it? There must have been something that united the people from both places ,something more than mere solidarity,don't you think....of VMK were Macedonian refugees well you have never heard about the Byzantine Thema Macedonia. This was including also Eastern Thrace. The Thema was added to Macedonia cause of the large Imigration of West Macedonians in those places in those times. So does that makes sence for you ... it doesnt matters.... Most of the VMK were Ethnic Macedonians lead mostly by Bulgars(Conchev) who were Pro Bulgar oriented, whose Ideals were to Liberate Macedonia with help of Bulgaria, exactly as Bulgaria was liberated with help of Macedonia. that does not makes them Bulgars. how ever they were danger to VMRO, and they were fighting each other oftenly. VMK are responsible of killing many VMRO Revolutionaries. VMK with the time was getting clear Bulgar movment, and many Ethnic Macedonians exited the Organization. and could you please provide me just one proof that the people in Stranga ,for example , and on the southern coast of the Black sea called themselves Macedoanians?How would you comment the fact that it's there that a town called Mako Turnovo is found and just one more thing- have you ever heard a slavic-speaking person from this region? Well ,the accent they have is completely different from yours i.e. there's no trace of them ever speaking Macedonian..... Ей, ама си....... Тююююю, го унищи майтапот, защо не си кютиш бре? Одринци - баш македонци, лелее