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FROM: Terzidis I [email protected]
DATE: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 21:02:10 -0000
TO: "[email protected]" [email protected]
SUBJECT: MACEDONIA
Dear VMRO,
I have to admit that your pages are full of absurdities and falsified evidence. The ancient Macedonians were Greeks and spoke Greek. There is no indication that the Macedonians were other than Greeks. The Macedonians were allowed to participate in the Olympic Games (Only Greeks were allowed to take part in the games) and to join the Amphictyonic League, a confederacy in which only Hellenic states were admitted. According to the father of history, Herodotus, king Alexander I was allowed to take part in the Olympic Games because he proved his Hellenic descent ( Herodotus 5.22.). Some
historians have argued that it was natural for Alexander to be allowed to take part in the games on the grounds that he belonged to the hellenised reigning dynasty. However, Eusebius of Caesarea preserves a list of known Olympic Victors among which he mentions Cliton, a Macedonian commoner, who participated in 113th Olympiad (Eusebi chronicorum libri duo, edition Alfred Schoene, 1967, p.206). This indicates that the Macedonians were accepted as Greeks. This view of the Hellenic descent of the Macedonians is maintained by Isokrates, an Athenian orator, who sent a letter to king Philip II urging him to unite the Greek world and lead a campaign against the barbarians of Asia. His letter "To Philip" emphasises the Hellenic descent of the Macedonians. He reminded Philip that "Argos is the land of your fathers" (see Loeb edition). Isokrates makes clear that the founder of the Macedonian dynasty was the mythical semi-God Hercules.
After the battle of Issus in 333BC Alexander the Great is reported to have said to the Persian ambassadors who came to seek peace: " Your ancestors invaded MACEDONIA and THE REST OF GREECE and did us much harm though we had done none to them; I have been duly appointed commander in Chief of the GREEKS and invaded Asia desiring to take vengeance on Persia" (Arrian, 2.14.4, Loeb edition).
There are thousands of ancient sources which confirm the Hellenism of the ancient Macedonians. On the other hand, there is nothing which can prove the non-Hellenicity of ancient Macedonians. The archaeological evidence are sufficient: VERGINA- several broken grave stelai were found in the overburden of the great tumulus: ALL THE NAMES ARE WRITTEN IN GREEK. The Roman historian Livy claims: "Aetolos, Acarnanas, Macedonas eiusdem linguae homines" which means that " the Aetolians, the Acarnanians and the Macedonians were people of the same language".
The most prominent historians maintain that the Macedonians were Greeks: N.G.L. HAMMOND, M. ERRINGTON. The German historian Hoffmann examined all the
remnants of the ancient Macedonian language to conclude that the language of
ancient Macedonia was purely Greek: see O. Hoffmann(1906), Die Makedonen
ihre sprache und ihre volkstum, Gottingen. Only E.Borza claims that the ancient Macedonians were a distinct nation. But even if we accept his view we can see that there is no relation between ancient Macedonia and the Slavs.
You must admit that you are Slavs and that you occupied this area of the Balkan Peninsula many many centuries after the death of Alexander the Great.
Your language is very closely related to Bulgarian and in fact it is a Bulgarian dialect. Your country was simply called "southern Serbia" before the second world war. Tito named your country "Macedonia" in order to satisfy his future plans to incorporate the whole land of Macedonia into Yugoslavia. This would give an access to the harbour of Thessaloniki.
You must not forget that your alphabet was created by Cyril and Methodius, the two Greek brothers from Thessaloniki. They are recognised as GREEKS by several Popes of the Roman-Catholic Church.
It is therefore an absurdity to claim that you are Macedonians. You have nothing to do with the ancient Macedonians. They were indisputably Greeks. You call your country Macedonia because you do not know how to call it. Your country is a multiethnic society: it is composed of you (Slavs), Albanians, Serbs, Turks, Bulgarians, Gypsies, even Greeks live there! The term Macedonia is a perfect solution since it is accepted by all the above nations. You have an expansive policy. You want to have an access to the harbour of Thessaloniki.
You must stop presenting Alexander the Great as your ancestor. Even the name Alexander is purely Greek!
Your web-pages are full of distorted evidence. Someone could laugh!!!!!!
Ioannis Terzidis
BACHELOR OF ARTS ( University of Wales, U.K.) MASTER OF ARTS Candidate
(University of London, U.K.)
FROM: "Nico Georgiadis" [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 23:32:31 +0000
TO: "VMRO-MNM" [email protected]
SUBJECT: Bra försök men...
Vill börja skriva med att jag och även mina förfäder kommer från thessaloniki / Saloniki / Solon. Jag är själv historielärare och pluggat bla i USA och England. Jag vill inte verka nationellistisk då jag inte är det och är en riktig filantrop och har goda relationer med folkslag i hela världen och alla religioer etc, men måste kommentera och ge en vis rättelse i din info om macedonien med följande:
För att göra en lång historia kort så vet du likaså som jag att dagens slavisk macedonska folket inte ens existerade i europa. Så vad pratar du om igentligen? Den historia och tidsrum du referer till angår enbart ett folkgrupp hellenister som bröt med Aten och bildade en egen stat vid namn Macedonien.
Det ända som ändrades var folkstyret, den hellenistiska Språket och likaså kulturen bevarades bevisligen (kolla alfabetet och deras betalmedel mm). Det var inte i närheten av dagens nymacedonska språk som är praktsikt taget bulgariska (ifall du inte märkt)
Det är patetiskt att läsa en så enormt snevriden och substanslös information där du blandat tid & rum likaså folkgrupper från när & fjärran och referar dagens nya macedonien ( bulgarer, turkar, albaner, zigenare, mm ) som en historisk pelare till mina förhistorsiska hellensiska fäder som var de riktiga tidens macedoner.
Säga vad man vill så klart men inte kan man blunda för ovanämnd fakta som också ger en bevislig vägriktning om bla vem Alexander den store var dvs visst var han macedon och då vet du att jag menar en riktig hellenist som inte pratade ditt språk och inte heller var slavisk då ni inte ens existerade den aktuella tiden i Europa.
För ditt eget bästa gör inte bort dig mer med sådan trams där du blandat allt och alla tyvärr.
Detta i all välmening.
Mvh / N.G från Saloniki
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FROM: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 22:03:45 +0100
TO: "VMRO-MNM" [email protected]
SUBJECT: SUBJECT: od Snezana Salev-kanada
FROM: Stevo Salev [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 22:12:16 -0500
TO: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet [email protected]
SUBJECT: od Snezana Salev-kanada
Pochituvan Ljupcho.........
So golema pochit vi se obrakam zoshto do mene stigna vasheto pismo shto mislam deka go imate prateno do site makednonci, pa eve i tuka vo dalechnata kanada dopre tvojot golem Makedonski glas.........
Go delam vasheto mislenje vo potpolnost i nemozev da ne vi pisham i da vi kazam deka e pregolema bolkata za se shto se sluchuva so taa gorda makedonska grutka od skotovi i tirani od bezvernici a naj zalno e shto del vo seto toa imaat i nashite makedonski izrodi koi im stanaa slugi i se prodadoa na tie kuchinja od luge-SHIPTARITE.........
Samo znam deka mnogu tirani doshle i ne iskochija zivi od Makedonia nema da kurtulat ni ovie ama samo ako ke se najde lek od predavnicite od nashiot rod?!?!?!?!?!?!
Kako ida e jas samo sakam da vi kazam deka stojam pozadi vas i deka ja imate mojata podrshka i bi sakala da doprinesam na vashata rabota na ova pole.........
Gospod da ve blagoslovi, da ve chuva, vas vasheto semejstvo i siot nash makedonski rod kade i da e vo svetot............so pochit i srdechen pozdrav......Snezana Salev.
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DATE: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 16:20:19 EST
TO: "vmro-mnm" [email protected]
SUBJECT: Re: AMNESTIJA ZA [IPTERSKITE BALISTI^KI, TERORISTI I FA[ISTI!!!!!
kaj so ima sila, nema pravina
FROM: [email protected] [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Thu, 14 Mar 102 18:33:17 Eastern Daylight Time
TO: VMRO-MNM [email protected]
da zivee makedonija!!!!!
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FROM: adrian leki [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 10:30:49 -0800 (PST)
TO: VMRO-MNM [email protected]
SUBJECT: god bless you
abe kopuk eden ti ova go pishuvash od daleku neli!?
ti ne si vo macedonia....abe da ti kazam jas tebe DAJ DOJDI TUKA KAJ NAS I ZIVEJ 2,3 GODINI I KE POSlE KE SI ZBORIME NIE PAK...A NE VAKA OD DALAKU SAMO UDIRASH I BEGASH KO PEDER AKO SI JAK I AKO SI PATRIOT TI POKAZI SE NA DELO A NE SAMO DA PROVOCIRAS I DA ZAGREVS ATMOSFERA...KAPIRAS...TAKA DA ODI NA SISTEMATSKI PREGLED OTI MISLAM DEKA TI FAL DEL OD MALIOT MOZOK KOJ E STAGNIRAN NA HISTORIJATA...MINATOTO KOE NESAKAME DA SE POVTORI.....CAO "makedonce" heh i ako ne si znael...JAS SUM ALBANEC.....DETE NA VCELIKIOT SKENDER BEG I MUSLIMAN PRAV
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FROM: "Goran" [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:00:13 +0100
TO: "VMRO-MNM" [email protected]
SUBJECT: za Vas i Vasata organizacija
Dragi gospoda od vmro-mnm
Jas voopsto ne ve razbiram koja e celta sto sakate da ja postignete i so kakvi sredstva.
Pisuvate deka moze da ja oslobodite Makedonija(sose Egejska i Pirinska) ako Makedonskiot narod bide so Vas.
Moze da mi objasnite kako ke ja oslobodite Makedonija (da kazeme site Makedonci se so Vas).....dali imate nekoja strategija, plan.......kako?
Sigurno kako Ljubco.....so nekoja vojna vo koja samo makedonskiot narod ke strada.
A posle ke ja izgradite najgolemata vila na vodno i kojznae uste kade ne.
A vojnata nie (makedoncite) 100% nema da ja izvojuvame.
Ne ja sakam Vasata organizacija, zasto mislam deka e premnogu nacionalisticka
I mislam deka takvi organizacii mozat samo da donesat steta i krvoprolevanja vo Makedonija.
Jas ja gledam Vasata stranica samo kako edna propaganda koja sakate da ja prenesete kon lugjeto, koi ne se dovolno informirani.
E pa da Vi kazam Makedoncite ne se nedovolno informirani.....ako sakate nekoj da Vi poveruva vo ova, odete i propagirajte kaj nekoe pleme vo Afrika.
Lugjeto ne se ovci, kako sto Vie bi sakale.
Jas bi Vi go kazal moeto mislenje so zadovolstvo za toa sto se slucuva vo Makedonija i Balkanot.
I togas mozebi ke se zaprasate dali i treba na Makedonija organizacii kako vasata
So seta pocit
FROM: "WebmasterK" [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 16:22:25 -0800
TO: "VMRO-MNM" [email protected]
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Dear sir
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WELL DONE ON YOUR SITE I ENJOY READ IT, AND MAY I SAY I HAVE INVESTIGATED THE MACEDONIAN PROB, AND CAME WITH THESE RESULTS, MACEDONIAN'S ARE NOT GREEKS, BUT FROM MY WEB INVESTIGATION'S IT IS CLEAR THAT MACEDONIAN'S ARE A VENETI PEOPLES BEFORE THE NAME MACEDON THERE WHERE VENETI (PHOENICIAN'S), AND THE TALE SKLAVONIA (VENETI) HAD A STATE NEXT TO BAVARIA, I TYPED IN MSN SKLAVONIA IT SHOW'S MACEDONIAN COAT OF ARMS, AT THE MOMENT HISTORIAN'S ARE INVESTIGATING THE VENETI HISTORY, PRESENT DAY ITALY IS FALSIFIFIED AND WITH THE ROMAN'S THE SO CALLED ANCESTORS OF THE LATIN'S AND THROUGH THEM, THE FORERUNNERS OF MODERN ITALIAN'S IS AN UNFOUNDED GENERALIZATION, THIS MUST BE REGARDED MERELY AS AN ACADEMIC CONSTRUCT, WITH ARCHAEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE FOUND.. VENICE ARE VENETI LATINISED PEOPLES TOSCANIA ARE TOSKI LATINISED, AND TO END THIS I SAY UNITED MACEDONIAN'S OR VENETI PEOPLES AROUND THE WORLD, BUT THE SUPER POWERS DON'T WANT TO SEE A SUPER POWER MACEDONIAN KINGDOM MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIAN'S I JUST WAS TOLD BY SOMEONE ON THE MOBILE THAT IN MACEDONIA A MAN FOUND A BRONZE BOOK WRITTEN IN ANCIENT MACEDONIAN SAME AS THE CYRILLIC THAT WE HAVE, IF THIS IS TRUE MORE EVIDENCE FOR US MACEDONIAN'S THAT GREEKS LIED, SIR HAVE A LOOK AT THE SITE
www.fotw.ca/flags/gr-index.html and the Macedonian site to www.fotw.ca/flags/mk.html
YOURS FAITHFULLY.
NICK STAMOS THE MACEDON
FROM: Maria Koutrokoi [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 09:54:58 +0300
TO: "vmro-mnm" [email protected]
SUBJECT: Re: The Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization -Macedonia For The Macedonians (VMRO-MNM)
MACEDONIA IS GREECE AND ALEXANDER THE GREAT WAS GREEK GO TO SEE HIS PALACE IN GREECE
At 02:00 đė 5/4/2002 +0200, you wrote:
>The Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization - Macedonia For The Macedonians (VMRO-MNM)
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>Web site of VMRO-MNM: http://www.vmro-mnm.com
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>VNATRESNA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA - MAKEDONIJA NA
>MAKEDONCITE (VMRO-MNM)
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>Web strana na VMRO-MNM: http://www.vmro-mnm.com
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http://www.vmro-mnm.com/The_Empire_of_Aleksandar_III_Makedonski_the_Great_1.htm
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http://www.vmro-mnm.com/The_massacre_in_Macedonia.htm
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http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Declaration_of_the_Macedonian_Revolutionary_Organization_VMRO-MNM.htm
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http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Picture_of_the_Macedonian_Revolutionary_Mr._Ljupco_Mircevski-Trepet.htm
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http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Letters_from_ABI.htm
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http://www.vmro-mnm.com/The_Macedonian_alphabet.htm
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http://www.vmro-mnm.com/The_Macedonian_National_Country_Flag.htm
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http://www.vmro-mnm.com/The_National_Anthem_of_Macedonia.htm
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http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Makedonskata_Nacionalna_i_Drzavna_HIMNA.htm
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http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Makedonsko_Nacionalno_Drzavno_Zname_Sonceto-Zvezdata_od_Makedonskiot_Kutles.htm
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http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Sloboda_ili_smrt_za_Makedonija_Bratko_TREPET.htm
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http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Amnestija_za_siptarskite_balisticki_teroristi_i_fasisti.htm
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http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Makedonski_narode_obedinite_se_bidete_solidarni_posto_ke_bideme_unisteni_zasekogas.htm
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http://www.vmro-mnm.com/E-mail_poraki_od_Dxxxxxx_Gxxxxxxx_i_odgovori_od_G-dinot_Trepet.htm
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http://www.vmro-mnm.com/E-mail_poraka_od_Petar_Temelkov_i_odgovor_od_G-dinot_Trepet.htm
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FROM: [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 22:32:37 +0300
TO: [email protected]
LEARN HISTORY MACEDONIA IS GREEK.
SLOWLY THEY WAS NOT ZASTAWA ARMING VOUKEFALAS.
FROM: DOUG BOYD [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 12:48:27 -0800 (PST)
TO: "vmro-mnm" [email protected]
SUBJECT: Re: http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Macedonian_people_seaking_their_stolen_identites.htm
Zdravo, Dear Sirs
Please forgive me,But I do not write Macedonian very well.I hope that you will understand my english.My wife is Macedonian and she has helped me to translate your e-mail.I very much agree with the VRMO in there efforts to unite Macedonian people for the good of all Macedonians.I hope some day to return to Macedonia where I might build a house and raise our children there.Therefore I have Great hopes for peace in Macedonia.I only wish that I could do more to help you in your cause.However I am American and can do little about your situation there.I can only wish you luck and ask that God will bless you.The Macedonian people have suffered a great deal for the false promises of politicians.I can only hope that you are sincere in your words that state that your party is for the people.It is the 21st century and time for the Macedonian people to join together to create a new and more prosporous Macedonia.Again,I wish you the best,and pray for the children of Macedonia.That they might someday enjoy the freedoms and wealth of life that our God would someday place upon them.I love the people of Macedonia and hope someday to live among them as one of them.Again I think there is very little I can do to help.But my prayers are for you all.Thank you for your E-Mail.
Douglas M. Boyd
American
vmro-mnm <[email protected]> wrote:
MNOGO OPASNA, TESHKA I SERIOZNA IZJAVA OD DENESHNIOT NAJ GOLEM MAKEDONSKI SIN, REVOLUCIONER I VOJVODA GOSPODINOT TREPET ( STRAV I TREPET )!!!!!
http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Makedonski_narode_obedinite_se_bidete_solidarni_posto_ke_bideme_unisteni_zasekogas.htm
http://www.vmro-mnm.com/E-mail_poraki_od_Dxxxxxx_Gxxxxxxx_i_odgovori_od_G-dinot_Trepet.htm
http://www.vmro-mnm.com/E-mail_poraka_od_Petar_Temelkov_i_odgovor_od_G-dinot_Trepet.htm
http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Macedonian_people_seaking_their_stolen_identites.htm
Makedonska Revolucionerna
Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Pretsedatel:
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Web stranica: http://www.vmro-mnm.com
Kontakt na E-mail: TREPET [email protected]
VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!
VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!
GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI NASIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!
SMTR ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!
SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, TERORISTI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!
SMTR ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI!
SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!
EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!
TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......
VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)!
Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata
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FROM: "vmro-mnm" [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 01:53:38 +0200
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SUBJECT: MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!
Pochituvan g-din, do Vas imame edno prashanje: Koj ste Vie i zoshto go koristite imeto na organizacijata VMRO-MNM, na Vashata e-mail adresa. Se nadevame deka kje ni odgovorite na nasheto prasanje.
So pochit
VMRO-MNM
FROM: "goran trajkovski" [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 14:42:55 +0000
TO: "VMRO-MNM" [email protected]
SUBJECT: da vi go ebam plemeto
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FROM: "vmro-mnm" [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 20:01:14 +0100
TO: "goran trajkovski" [email protected]
CC: "vmro-mnm" [email protected]
SUBJECT: Re: da vi go ebam plemeto
od koe pleme ti poteknuvash, ako si od Makedonskoto, togash si ja navredil i tvojata familija i sebe si.....Ako si drugo pleme, a go koristis Makedonskoto ime i prezime, togash podobro da go koristi ono tvoeto pravo ime i prezime.......
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 14:42:55 +0000
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FROM: "goran trajkovski" [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 13:06:29 +0000
TO: "VMRO-MNM" [email protected]
SUBJECT: ebi se
DOBRO KOLKU PATI TREBA DA TI KAZAM DA NE MI PUSTAS OD OVIE GLUPI PORAKI EBETE SE SITE POZDRAV OD SDSM,SDMM I POKE DA NE VIDAM PORAKA OTI KE SE SLUCI NAJLOSOTO
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FROM: "vmro-mnm" [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 16:29:54 +0200
TO: "goran trajkovski" [email protected]
CC: "vmro-mnm" [email protected]
SUBJECT: Re: ebi se
Slushaj bre ti kopile srbomansko, koga si ti kazhal da ne ti prakjame poraki. I shto nas ni e gajle shto ti ne sakash da primash e-maili. Znaesh shto zemi i otkazhi se od Internet, ponishti ja taa tvoja mochana e-mail poshta i nikoj nema da ti prakja e-maili.
I edena i posledna opomena, pazi kako se izrazuvash, da ne te goltni mrakot. Mene mi se chini deka ti i predhodno imashe napishano edena psihopatska i grda navredliva poraka (za sekoj sluchaj jas kje proveram vo arhiva).
VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!
VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!
GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI NASIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!
SMTR ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!
SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, TERORISTI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!
SMTR ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI!
SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!
EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!
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VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)!
FROM: adrian leki [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:10:21 -0700 (PDT)
TO: VMRO-MNM [email protected]
SUBJECT: PUSHI KUR SHQIPTARSKI!
I USHTE......PUSHI KUR SHQIPTARSKI!.......I MOJOT SE RAZBIRA!
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FROM: "Macedonian Revolutionary" [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:06:12 +0000
TO: [email protected] , [email protected] , [email protected]
CC: VMRO-MNM vmro-mnm@vmro-mnm , VMRO-MNM [email protected]
SUBJECT: Prashanje do redakcijata na Makedonsko sonce.
Pochituvani dami i gospodo na redakcijata na Makedonsko sonce!
Jas kako zagrizhen makedonec, so sostojbata vo nashata tatkovina. Vi se obrakjam vo vrska so aktivnostite na liderot na organizacijata VMRO-MNM, G-dinot TREPET. Jas kako chlen vo VMRO-MNM, vo sonce nekolku godini nemam prochitano za G-dinot TREPET, niti pak za VMRO-MNM, pa sakam da ve prasham zoshto i koja e prichinata. Nemjte da rechete deka ne znaete za liderot na VMRO-MNM i za organizacijata, nemote da rechete deka neste dobile materijali i.t.n.
Jas ve prasuvam zoshto go ignorirate makedonskiot komita i patriot, iskreno recheno MAKEDONSKIOT REVOLUCIONER I VOJVODA G-dinot TREPET i organizacijata
VMRO-MNM.
Dali e toa realno od vasha strana, da ne pishuvate za makedonskite komiti i patrioti, dali toa e realno od vaha strana da go izbegavate MAKEDONSKIOT REVOLUCIONER, dali toa e realno da vie ne objavuvate za eden od naj golemite makedonski SINOVI, koj gi zashtituva makedonskite nacionalni interesi, koj shto aktivno raboti za afirmacija na makedonskiot narod i za makedonskata kauza.
Ako makedonsko sonce e vesnik na makedoncite, togash objavuvajte za makedoncite a ne za balistichkite kachaci (teroristi) i za makedonskite predavnici. Pochnete so realnost, gledajte kade e realniot i chesniot makedonec, gledajte koj se bori za makedonstvoto. Do koga vaka, do koga kje gi podrzhavate makedonskite banditi, do koga kje gi podrzhavate albanskite lideri na teroristichkite organizacii. Dajte objavuvajte za G-dinot TREPET, objavuvajte gi negovite izjavi, protesti, objavuvajte od nego i za nego.
Ako ne objavuvate za G-dinot TREPET, jas sum preplaten kaj vas i jas vo idnina nema da go chitem "makedonsko sonce". A toa ne e teshko da svatite zohto nema da go chitam ovaj vesnik, edno stavno ne zasluzhuvate da vi gi chitam, vo sekoj broj poshuvate za vashite omileni siptari i vashte omileni banditi od vladata-ventilator i od sobranieto-ventilator (kako shto gi narekuva G-dinot TREPET).
Da ne Ve zamaram so povishe objasnuvanje i kritikuvanje, poshto stvarno zasluzhuvate za kritiki i da ne se chita "makedonsko sonce" od makedonskite komiti i patrioti.
Odozdola imate nekolku linkovi so materijali i sliki od MAKEDONSKIOT VOJVODA
G-DIN TREPET, koj shto ima mnogo korisni i vazhni izjavi od G-dinot TREPET, a i poraki od makedonci koj shto stvarno znaat deka G-dinot TREPET, ja zasluzhuva celosnata podrshka od celiot makedonski narod.
So najiskren pochit
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http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Kontakti_so_eden_od_realenite_Makedonski_aktivisti_i_borci_za_Makedonskata_kauza.htm
http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Makedonski_Revolucioner_G-din_Ljupco_Mircevski-Trepet.htm
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FROM: "June R Harton" [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:18:22 -0700
TO: VMRO- MNM [email protected]
SUBJECT: Care to debate me
...on ANYTHING on your website? You should be ashamed of yourselves for all the unintelligent propaganda therein.
I can literally tear every concept there to bits with truth.
I dare you to try me.
from: Spirit Of The Real Makedon (using June's e-mail to communicate to you)!
.....The heart of Macedonia was always Greek
FROM: "Risto Popovski" [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 16:43:42 +0200
TO: VMRO-MNM [email protected]
SUBJECT: Re: Deklaracija vo ime na Makedonskata Drzhava, vo ime na Makedonskiot narod i vo ime na Makedonskata Revolucionerna Organizacija VMRO-MNM (Makedonija na Makedoncite).
Zdravo zivo brat Trepet
Posle dolgo nejavuvanje zemav malku vreme da ti odgovoram. Se e dobro sto pisuvame no nee dovolno za da se oslobodi makedonija i toa ne ova parce sto sakaat da go grabnat nego se raboti za celokupnata makedonska etnicka teritorija zatoa te molam vo ime na lavovite spremise za borba da se dogovorime ova leto ili ke ne ima ili ke ne snema dojdi ili so nekogo ili pak sam no dojdi za da ja branime i odbranime Makedonija.
Sega da zivee Makedonija Makedonija na Makedoncite Sloboda ili smrt.
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Deklaracija vo ime na Makedonskata Drzhava, vo ime na Makedonskiot
narod i vo ime na Makedonskata Revolucionerna Organizacija VMRO-MNM
(Makedonija na Makedoncite).
>
> Deklaracija vo ime na Makedonskata Drzhava, vo ime na Makedonskiot narod i vo ime na Makedonskata Revolucionerna Organizacija VMRO-MNM (Makedonija na
Makedoncite).
>
> Dragi sonarodnici braka sestri Makedonki i Makedonci,
>
> Ova Delkaracija vi ja isprakjame, poshto se raboti za spas na nashata tatkovina Makedonija i za spas na Makedonskiot narod.
>
> Dokolku ste vo mozhnost da ja preprakjate do vashite rodnini, do vashite naj bliski prijateli, do Makedoncite shirom celiot svet, do Makedonskite
organizacii, do Makedonski klubovi, crkveni opshtini (do makedonski asisuacii
i institucii).
>
> So Makedonski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi, vi posakuvame site nie od organizacijata VMRO-MNM.
>
> Goce P.
>
>
http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Deklaracija_vo_ime_na_Makedonskata_Drzava_Makedonskiot_Narod_i_Organizacijata_VMRO-MNM.htm
>
> Makedonska Revolucionerna
> Organizacija VMRO-MNM
> Pretsedatel:
> Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
>
> Web sajt na VMRO-MNM: http://www.vmro-mnm.com
> Kontakt na E-mail: TREPET [email protected]
>
> VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!
>
> VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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DATE: 28 Apr 2002 12:32:00 +0100
TO: "vmro-mnm" [email protected]
SUBJECT: Re:
http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Macedonian_people_seaking_their_stolen_identites.htm
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DATE: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:19:38 +0200
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SUBJECT: RE:
http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Macedonian_people_seaking_their_stolen_identites.htm
Madame, Monsieur,
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FROM: [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:59:15 +0200
TO: VMRO-MNM [email protected]
SUBJECT: RE:
http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Macedonian_people_seaking_their_stolen_identites.htm
Please remove [email protected] from your mailing list. Thank you.
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>From: vmro-mnm [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:54 AM
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FROM: Dardan Blaku [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 19:51:27 -0700 (PDT)
TO: VMRO-MNM [email protected]
SUBJECT: Re: Deklaracija vo ime na Makedonskata Drzhava, vo ime na Makedonskiot narod i vo ime na Makedonskata Revolucionerna Organizacija VMRO-MNM (Makedonija na Makedoncite).
Guys, take it easy or we'll push you back to Bulgaria this time...
Siptarski balisti teroristi fasisti.... muhahahaha
vmro-mnm <[email protected]> wrote:
Deklaracija vo ime na Makedonskata Drzhava, vo ime na Makedonskiot narod i vo ime na Makedonskata Revolucionerna Organizacija VMRO-MNM (Makedonija na Makedoncite).
Dragi sonarodnici braka sestri Makedonki i Makedonci,
Ova Delkaracija vi ja isprakjame, poshto se raboti za spas na nashata tatkovina Makedonija i za spas na Makedonskiot narod.
http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Deklaracija_vo_ime_na_Makedonskata_Drzava_Makedonskiot_Narod_i_Organizacijata_VMRO-MNM.htm
Dokolku ste vo mozhnost da ja preprakjate do vashite rodnini, do vashite naj bliski prijateli, do Makedoncite shirom celiot svet, do Makedonskite organizacii, do Makedonski klubovi, crkveni opshtini (do makedonski asisuacii i institucii).
So Makedonski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi, vi posakuvame site nie od organizacijata VMRO-MNM.
Goce P.
The Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization VMRO-MNM (Macedonia For The Macedonians).
Web site of VMRO-MNM: http://www.vomro-mnm.com
http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Macedonian_people_seaking_their_stolen_identites.htm
VNATRESNA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA - MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE (VMRO-MNM)
Web strana na VMRO-MNM: http://www.vmro-mnm.com
http://www.vmro-mnm.com/Makedonskiot_narod_si_trgnal_po_potraga_za_ukradeniot_licen_identitet.htm
Makedonska Revolucionerna
Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Pretsedatel:
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Web sajt na VMRO-MNM: http://www.vmro-mnm.com
Kontakt na E-mail: TREPET [email protected]
VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!
VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!
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FROM: boban karanfilovski [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 14:43:50 +0100 (BST)
TO: VMRO-MNM [email protected]
www.bidichese.net
ispratete ja stranicava do site chesni makedonci shirum svetot
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FROM: "vmro-mnm" [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:55:40 +0200
TO: boban karanfilovski [email protected]
CC: "vmro-mnm" [email protected]
SUBJECT: Pozdrav od VMRO-MNM (Makedonija Na Makedoncite).
Boban nie mislevme deka ti si dobar Makedonec, no sme vo pogreshno mislenje. Ti si od onie anti makedonskite zverovi shto sakat da ja unishtat nashata Majka Makedonija i Makedonskiot narod.
Zoshto ja prakjash ova anti makedonska veb stranica so stranite agenti i shpijuni kaj makedoncite.
SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONIJA!
EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!
SMRT ZA SHIPTARITE I SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKITE PREDAVNICI!
MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!
VMRO-MNM
Pozdrav od VMRO-MNM (Makedonija Na Makedoncite).
ZAPOZNAJTE SE VIE I PREPRATETE JA PORAKATA I DO VASITE NAJ BLISKI, RODNINI, PRIJATELI I POSIROKO SO GOLEMITE AKTIVNOSTI I BORBI ZA MAKEDONSKATA KAUZA NA:
VNATRESNA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA - MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE (VMRO-MNM)
Web stranica na VMRO-MNM: http://www.vmro-mnm.com
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: boban karanfilovski [email protected]
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 14:43:50 +0100 (BST)
>www.bidichesen.cjb.net
>ispratete ja stranicava do site chesni makedonci shirum svetot
>
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FROM: boban karanfilovski [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:41:55 +0100 (BST)
TO: VMRO-MNM [email protected]
SUBJECT: Re: Pozdrav od VMRO-MNM (Makedonija Na Makedoncite).
ako mislite na stranicata www.bidichesen.net toa e web stranica protiv korumpiranata vlada a linkovite desno se email adrwesi na korumpiranite ministri na koi treba da im se napisi kakvi gadovi se.
mislam deka web stranicata e fantasticna i ima cel da im se pokaze na gospodata ministri kolku ovoj napaten makedonski narod e protiv niv.
posetete go forumot i dajte im jasno do znaenje sto mislite za niv ocigledno poinaku ja imate videno web stranicata ili pak nesto drugo e vo prasanje.
pozdrav
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FROM: "vmro-mnm" [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Thu, 2 May 2002 15:59:39 +0200
TO: boban karanfilovski [email protected]
CC: "vmro-mnm" [email protected]
SUBJECT: Re: Pozdrav od VMRO-MNM (Makedonija Na Makedoncite).
Boban
vo vrska so sajtot, jas go narekov deka e anti makedonski, poradi prenzetacija na ventilatorot. Jas koga go otvoriv sajtot go zabelezhiv ventilatorot i odma mu pushtiv na webmasterot materijali od organizacijata VMRO-MNM i mu go prativ i Makedonskoto istoriskio i vistinskoto zname, shesnaesetkrakoto sonce. Od koga go dobija materijalot dva dena sajtot beshe zatvoren. Potoa eden od nashite chlenovi Macedonian Revolutionary ostavi i post na forumot, postot ne beshe prifaten.
Jas mislam deka nashiot chlen ima ostaveno nov post, a ti boban da se potrudish da go podrzhish vo ovo shto e napishano i da otvarash novi temi za G-dinot Trepet i za organizacijata VMRO-MNM.
srdechni pozdravi od Goce P.
p.s. Sajtovi koj shto go koristat imeto Makedonija - Macedonia, a go imata staveno ventilatorot, nie od organizacijata VMRO-MNM, ne go prifakjame i ne go priznavame toj sajt za MAKEDONSKI. Nego go smatrame za anti makedonski i za predavnichki sajt.
Ovaj sajt se imenuva kako "bidi chesen" i so ime "VMRO Makedonska". Jas mislam deka tie shto se isjasnuvat kako VMRO, a go koristat i prezentirat ventilatorot, tie ne se chesni i realni Makedonci.
Makedonska Revolucionerna
Organizacija VMRO-MNM
Pretsedatel:
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Web sajt na VMRO-MNM: http://www.vmro-mnm.com
Kontakt na E-mail: TREPET [email protected]
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---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: boban karanfilovski [email protected]
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:41:55 +0100 (BST)
>ako mislite na stranicata www.bidichesen.net
>toa e web stranica protiv korumpiranata vlada a
>linkovite desno se email adrwesi na korumpiranite
>ministri na koi treba da im se napisi kakvi gadovi se.
>mislam deka web stranicata e fantasticna i ima cel da im se pokaze na gospodata ministri kolku ovoj napaten makedonski narod e protiv niv.
>posetete go forumot i dajte im jasno do znaenje sto
>mislite za niv ocigledno poinaku ja imate videno web stranicata ili pak nesto drugo e vo prasanje
>pozdrav
>
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FROM: Adrian Goodliffe [email protected] | Save Address
DATE: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:52:46 +0200
TO: "'[email protected]'" [email protected]
CC: VMRO-MNM [email protected]
SUBJECT: FW: CRISISWEBNEWS - New International Crisis Group Report, "EU Crisis Response Capabilities: An Update"
CRISISWEB NEWS
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New International Crisis Group Report, "EU Crisis Response Capabilities: An Update"
Monday, 29 April 2002
The EU has made progress in developing crisis management competence since ICG's initial study ten months ago, However, its Common Foreign and Security Policy (CFSP) still punches below its weight because member states have not yet mastered the art of speaking with a single voice and given adequate resources to their fledgling European Security and Defence Policy (ESDP). The events of 11 September 2001 have had surprisingly little impact. The EU responded with unprecedented speed to boost i nternal cooperation and civil protection but change in external policy is harder to gauge. In Afghanistan and the Middle East, the EU still plays a secondary role, complementing and sometimes modifying U.S. policy. The decision to declare ESDP operational at the Laeken Summit (December 2001) will likely get its first test when the EU takes over international police responsibilities in Bosnia next year. A more ambitious and problematic proposal is to replace NATO in providing security in Macedonia
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