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thors	Hello, I am italian, and I started to know Macedonia and Tetovo because my girl is of Tetovo. I hope that she can reach me to marry her.....but there are a lot of difficulties....starting from her family.... Somebody can help me to find a phone/address book of tetovo on the net? Anyway, since I knew her, it seems to me to know tetovo....... Bye Thors
BorisVM	Try http://www.whitepages.com.mk/
thors	Thank you, I have tried with no results, I have only name and surname of her, no address, and the contact are really difficult due to her family. This is also the reason why I can not go there to visit her, but to hope she can come here. Bye Thors
Whitebaby	thors, Tetovo is relatively small town. Since you know her name and last name I'm sure that if you go you'll find her. If you are in love as you say you are, than you should go, and don't worry about her family, if she loves you everything will be just fine. [:)]
thors	quote: Originally posted by Whitebaby thors, Tetovo is relatively small town. Since you know her name and last name I'm sure that if you go you'll find her. If you are in love as you say you are, than you should go, and don't worry about her family, if she loves you everything will be just fine. [:)]
thors	Hello, unfortunately her brothers are really "not good people", and she is scared for that.... In addition for what I have understood the situation is not very quite in Tetovo.... Do you know if is possible, and how, to make advirtising on tetovo newspapaer through internet? Surely she has no PC, but probably read newspapers... Thank you Bye Thors
Thief	Auuu,znaci svekakvi gi ima [:)]Ljubov e opasna rabota...
Whitebaby	You are not planning to put an ad in the newspapers, are you? Even if she reads newspapers, do you really think that she will go through the ads? You better come with another plan. One question for you. Is your girlfriend albanian? If she is, and as you have said her brothers and her family are against this relationship... than I’m sorry to say, but man you have HUGE PROBLEM!!!
thors	Yes, she is albanian, or mainly albanian, one of the parents is albanian and the other one is macedonian. I met her when she was in Italy, and we decided to live together. She went back to her country because her mother had health problem (she had escaped from family due to heavy familary problems), but know she has having problems to come back in Italy..... She would like to come here, and give the news to parents after we will marry... but the situation is not simple...... why you are saying HUGE problems? Thank you Bye Thors
Whitebaby	thors, knowing the mentality of the Albanians, whenever they are against a relationship of somebody in their family, they will stick to it no matter what, and they are capable of doing anything to make that relationship impossible. I've had a lot of albanian girlfriends that were "forced" not to marry the one they chose but the one their family chose for them. If you really love her, which I'm sure you do, than you better come up with a plan and act fast. This is just a friendly advice. In all this I don't understand one thing. She is your girlfriend... than howcome you don't have at least her phone number, or howcome she is not calling you???
thors	Hello Whitebaby, what you told me I understood from the behaviour of Hairie. She came in Italy escaping from her family and had a lot of troubles, in which I helped to come out. Her family is quite poor, she has not home phone, and when I tried to send a mobile phone to her, her brother stole it. In few words, she is in prison, and has a very little possibility of movements! I know that one brother tried to convince her to marry a friend of him, but she refused strongly more and more time, and this story seems to be closed. For what I know since last contacts, she is trying to have the possibility to call me. She absolutely wants to avoid that her male parents have my contacts (phone, address, and so on), but females are my sponsors (often I receive the greetings of her mother!) Yesterday I spoke with the cousin in Italy (they can freely speak when Hairie is at home of the aunt near Tetova), sending her the greetings for St. Valentine.... she confirmed her willing to come here.... what I am doing is to search a "safe" contact in Tetova (for example OIM, Caritas, etc.) + contacts in italian embassy to simplify the release of VISA (this is an other difficult point....). Thank for your suggestions, and sorry for my english (I am more able to write technical english instead of that) Bye Thors
ViennaBoy	thors forgett my previos message..i see i insulted the others with that..well if u need really help than u can contact me..since i am half albanian too maybe i can help u..i can try to contact with someone from TETOVO..don't tell about Hajrije to everybody..specialy not to albanian from TETOVO..it's little bit dangerous for ur gf..so u can send me a PM or send an e-mail..good luck
BorisVM	It is Tetovo, NOT Tetova, GOD DAMN IT!
thors	Hello Viennaboy, I am sorry if you think that I am joking with you, it is not my habit, I know that the story seems to be really strange, also for me............ there are a lot of reasons for which the relation between Hairie and me is so complicated... ok, no problems, I am sorry if posting here my problems I have insulted somebody, till the solution (happy or not) I will continue to keep me updated what is happening where she lives.....I hope that some day, in the future, I and Hairie can post together here saying hello to everybody......and go together in Macedonia so in can see with my eyes the places she described. Sincerely Bye Thors
ViennaBoy	quote: Originally posted by thors Hello Viennaboy, I am sorry if you think that I am joking with you, it is not my habit, I know that the story seems to be really strange, also for me............ there are a lot of reasons for which the relation between Hairie and me is so complicated... ok, no problems, I am sorry if posting here my problems I have insulted somebody, till the solution (happy or not) I will continue to keep me updated what is happening where she lives.....I hope that some day, in the future, I and Hairie can post together here saying hello to everybody......and go together in Macedonia so in can see with my eyes the places she described. Sincerely Bye Thors [8D] i wish u'r dreams come true..and u are not insulting anybody...good luck
ViennaBoy	quote: Originally posted by BorisVM It is Tetovo, NOT Tetova, GOD DAMN IT! se izvinuvam za nenamernata provokacija
n/a	TETOVO Sopoj zapamtetego imevo. Steta sto ne ve isklavne za vreme na vojnata ali ne e kasno nikogas
ViennaBoy	quote: Originally posted by komita TETOVO Sopoj zapamtetego imevo. Steta sto ne ve isklavne za vreme na vojnata ali ne e kasno nikogas Navistina ne e kasno.Najdi nekoe shiptarce pa skinimu glava.Ako ne se zadovolis so toa ispijmu mu ja krvta i plukni mu ja na tatko mu.A ako i ova ne te zadovoluva isparcaj go na 1000 delovi i daj mu gi na kuchinjata da gi jadat.Se nadevam deka sega si zadovolen. p.s. jas se izviniv za nenamernata provokacija so ja napraviv so brzina...
Whitebaby	You're welcome thors, sorry that I can't help you more. You just keep going and don't give up. Don't you ever give up! People are going through hell and back for love, but it's worthy believe me. [:)] Good luck. [:)]
thors	Thank you Whitebaby, I had indirectly some news by her, and we will continue to try our story................. Bye Thors
n/a	viena boi . Gi gledas nastanite vo MK , koj kogo go predizvikuva Makedoncite siptaritre ili Siptarite Makedoncite . pa aj ke poxcneme da razgovarame na golemo bez da se vrejgame. Ona sto go napisav gore ti se izvinuvam
ViennaBoy	quote: Originally posted by komita viena boi . Gi gledas nastanite vo MK , koj kogo go predizvikuva Makedoncite siptaritre ili Siptarite Makedoncite . pa aj ke poxcneme da razgovarame na golemo bez da se vrejgame. Ona sto go napisav gore ti se izvinuvam I dvete strani se predizvikuvaat megjusebe so prethoden dogovor,a pak zrtva e obicniot gragjanin eve nekolku primeri: 1.na leto gledav TV i vo eden kanal vidov eden Makedonski politicar.G-dinot zboruvase kako ke gi ubie siptarite na vakov ili takov nacin.. 2.otvoram drug kanal i gledam eden albanski(ili siptarski kako sakas) politicar.G-dinot vo edno X selo zboruva burno kako ke bidele unisteni "Slavo"-Makedoncite ako ne pravele ova ili ona... 3.se stori polnoc i mi se smaci od ovie pa otvoriv drug kanal i so da gledam..dvajcata gorespomenati G-dini se pregrnuvaat,se smejat eden so drug,pri sto edniot mu cestita na drugiot Denot na Partijata(mozde nekoj znae za koj zboruvam ama i ne e tolku vazno)..e sea z's ne se ubivaat megjusebe ovie G-da???..pa neli ke pravea ona ke pravea ova??? a pak najdobar primer e sekako 2001g.: nikoj ama bukvalno nikoj na ovaa planeta ne mozze da me razubedi deka Makedonskite Vlasti ne znaeja za pregrupiranjata niz planini i Likovo.. Vistina e deka za ova ne znaeshe obicniot Makedonski gragjanin kako sto ne znaev ni jas...jas cel den surfav vo ineternet i citav vesti i nemozev da poveruvam deka se slucuva toa so se sluci..letoto 2000 vo Ohrid i Struga zapoznav eden kup drugarki Makedonki recisi od cela Makedonija i si pominavme super..e sea ako tie znaeja deka ke ima nemiri posle 6 meseci mislis deka ke se druzea so mene??..se razibra nikako..znaci lugjeto ne ocekuvaa neso ama zatoa pak "golemite" vo vlasta zneja i toa mnogu ubo...trebase li edna novinarka da odi vo Tanusevci za da se ubedi policijata deka tamu neso ne e vo red??..zarem Makedonija e golema kolku edna Kanada ili Kina, i ne moze da se kontrolira?? Se so se sluci i slucuva ima druga pozadina.. e sea treba da se najde zrtvata..vo nasiot slucaj toa bese Tetovo i Kumanovo(i tuka ima plan)...ama so e najtragicno posle se so se sluci ja pak gledam slepci so gi velicat tie so donesoa krizata..E toa so nasite gragjani se naivni e nas problem...Ja seuste gledam na Tv kako 5-6 lugje spijat vo edna soba daleku od sovojot dom...decata seuste se zloupotrebuvaat za dnevno-politicki celi...seuste se puka vo nekoi mesta..i samite albanci se protiv ovie pukanja z's i albanci ginat od tie kursumi..ama obicniot gragjanin ostanuva toa so e..posle se so se slucuva pak se gotovi da mu pushat k_urot na "golemite"(se izvinuvam na izrazot ama toa e najsoodvetniot zbor) p.s. jas po profesija sum tehnicki orientiran i ne se razbiram od politika ama i vonzemjanin ne mozhe da me razubedi deka takanarecenata vojna bila golemo iznenaduvanje za vlastite.. pa sea pcujte me kolku sakate ne mi gajle ova e moeto mislenje
thors	I believe that, to follow the forum, I should buy a dictionary........ only for curiosity, in which language are you writing? Bye Thors
melpomena	quote: Originally posted by thors I believe that, to follow the forum, I should buy a dictionary........ only for curiosity, in which language are you writing? Bye Thors Macedonian language
AaaAa	Thors, my advice is to let it go buddy. I am sure there are a lot of good looking and good hearted Italian women. Life is short :)
Whitebaby	Bre go preseche chovekot... a kako si e ubavo zaljuben, na moment prosto da poveruvash deka postoi ljubov koga go chitash. [8D]
thors	Hello AaaAaa, I really know that the situation is not easy, but each time I think to let it go, I feel really bad.............. perhaps because she is a special person? Bye Thors quote: Originally posted by AaaAa Thors, my advice is to let it go buddy. I am sure there are a lot of good looking and good hearted Italian women. Life is short :)
Whitebaby	quote: Originally posted by thors Hello AaaAaa, I really know that the situation is not easy, but each time I think to let it go, I feel really bad.............. perhaps because she is a special person? Bye Thors special person... that is so sweet. [:)] Keep on going buddy. [:)]
ViennaBoy	quote: Originally posted by thors each time I think to let it go, I feel really bad.............. perhaps because she is a special person? Bye Thors [:)] Thors everytime i meet a new girl i think she is a special person..but only for 2-3 weeks, than i go in attack to find a new "special person"..do the same..Hajrije is not the only women in this planet.. p.s. ne sum tolku opasen,ova go napisav samo za da mu pomognam nekako na deckovo[?]...
Whitebaby	ViennaBoy... ne se sekiraj, ke mu pomine za mesec dena.[:D] Samo da ja isturka najteshkata faza vo koja shto izgleda momentalno se naogja... i po nekoe vreme ke se sotre od smeenje koga ke prochita sho pishuval. [8D]
AaaAa	quote: Originally posted by thors Hello AaaAaa, I really know that the situation is not easy, but each time I think to let it go, I feel really bad.............. perhaps because she is a special person? Bye Thors Perhaps because you are idealizing her and whatever you had with her? And now since she is gone maybe it's a lot easier to fall in the "what if" reasoning? If she is such a special person why don't you sit on a plane and go to Tetovo ? i know Albanians can be ridiculously protective , but I doubt they keep her locked up in the house fearing that the Italian might show up. However, before you do that, think about whether you are a special person to her? This may easily be her way of telling you to back off. Since, regardless of how harsh her folks are, Tetovo is not in the 16th century, she can find a way to contact you if she wants to. Or, if you really believe it is her parents and family, well than be careful because when you are with a girl buddy you are with the whole family. Love does exist, but you need two people for that;-) don't search foe Shakespearean love though, William moved to Hollywood long time ago and stayed there :) Good luck to all
fio	thors, poor you :)