The Macedonian Job -- FOPG
The Macedonian Job -- FOPG
BorisVM The Macedonian job Macedonia is key to Balkan stability and should be invited into Nato as soon as possible, writes recent visitor David Cameron Wednesday September 10, 2003 "Let me get this straight. Last week someone called Cakara detonated two bombs outside your government's offices. The police won't catch him because the international community has told them not to inflame ethnic tensions. He's so confident that the police are impotent that he's published his mobile phone number in the local newspaper. And that's him you've just called on the phone?" "Yes. Welcome to Macedonia." Not your standard dinner party conversation, I admit. But it's a fairly accurate report of one that I had last week in a stunning villa perched on the hills above Skopje, Macedonia's capital city. More to the point, it's true. Of course technically my neighbour should have said: "Welcome to the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (Fyrom)", because that's the correct name for the small but beautiful country sandwiched between Greece, Albania, Serbia and Bulgaria. "FYR Macedonia" voted for independence in 1991 during the break-up of Yugoslavia and has been trying to make its way ever since. It hasn't been easy. The reason for the long name is that the Greeks complained vigorously that Macedonia already existed as a region of Greece and so could not be a separate country as well. This seems churlish in the extreme. The Greeks have their own country, their own name and have been showered with financial assistance since joining the EU. These people - the Macedonians - have recently escaped communism and have virtually nothing. And as if Greek pettiness wasn't enough the Albanians tend to dream of incorporating a large slice of FYR Macedonia into a Greater Albania while the Bulgars tend to think of the country as part of a Greater Bulgaria. Yet as far as I could see, the country - and I am determined to call it Macedonia - has a perfect right to exist. The population is overwhelmingly Macedonian, with a distinctive language, culture and history. It is poorer than some of the other old Yugoslav republics, but considerably richer than Albania. The people are civilised, friendly and highly educated. Even my tour guide had an MBA. It is always difficult to know how to answer the question: "What will you do to help us?" But on this occasion, I had the answer. From now on I will call our esteemed EU partner "the former Ottoman possession of Greece (Fopog)." All right, I admit it. Part of the attraction of the visit was the chance to watch the vital England-Macedonia football international. (And before anyone cries "sleaze", I paid for my air tickets and have disclosed all details in the register of members interests.) A further excitement was the possibility of meeting the England team and "hanging out" with them. As I can only name about three players of the team I half-heartedly support (Aston Villa) and am distinctly ropey on the full details of the off-side rule, lord knows what I was going to talk about. In fact, despite staying in the same hotel as the England team, I managed the almost impossible feat of not meeting - or even seeing - a single England player. But I was at the game. Wedged between the massed ranks of Macedonian supporters, at a game which the FA said British fans should avoid, I like to think that I was quietly doing my bit to show our lads that they had not been forgotten. In the event Sven's boys won 2:1 in a relatively scrappy game. Following the acres of print written about David Beckham, I would simply add this. Off the pitch the expectations about his performance were hyped beyond belief. On the pitch, he was double marked, aggressively tackled and booed by the crowd every time he won the ball. Yet he played like a god, passing with ball-point precision and raising the morale of a distinctly droopy England team with displays of pace and courage. All politicians know about hyping expectations. But hyping expectations and then surpassing them is something we can only dream of. I may not have met Beckham, but I met a lot of Macedonia's political elite. In a country this small in just a matter of minutes you can wander from the president's office to his defeated rival's and then on to party headquarters, the anti-corruption commission and the supreme court. Following your round of meetings, you pitch up to the movers and shakers restaurant and find .... the president, his rival, the anti-corruption commission and the head of the supreme court. Well, not quite, but not too far off either. So what did I learn? Am I a junket junkie - or did this mixture of low football and high politics at least partially educate one of our parliamentarians? I would plead for the latter. Macedonia may be a small country of just over 2m souls, but it is one of the keys to Balkan stability. Just as in Bosnia and Kosovo there are ethnic tensions, in this case between the majority Macedonians and the minority Albanians. But in Macedonia major conflict has been avoided through dialogue, international involvement and common sense from the Macedonian people, who supported their politicians when they signed the Ochrid accords giving generous minority rights to the Albanians. Conflict could have been bloody and widespread, with Albania backing the ethnic Albanians, the Serbs supporting their fellow Orthodox Christians the Macedonians, Bulgaria and Greece always in danger of being dragged into any territorial disputes. So what is the answer? Simple, really. Let Macedonia into Nato and guarantee its borders. Ensure there is a speedy framework for getting the former Yugoslav republics into the EU so they can benefit from free trade and structural funds. Recognise the fact that Macedonia paid a substantial price for looking after Albanian refugees from Kosovo during the war - and pay aid in respect of it. Above all, stay involved to give the region the stability that it needs so badly. If we give the Macedonians peace and they will deliver their own prosperity. So please, forgive me my brief junket. After all it could be my last. Next year, the Olympics will be held in the Former Ottoman Possession of Greece. Somehow I don't think I'll be getting the call up. · David Cameron is the Conservative MP for Witney and shadow deputy leader of the Commons. He writes a fortnightly diary for Guardian Unlimited http://politics.guardian.co.uk/columnist/story/0,9321,1039201,00.html
OooOo a gazment?
Strelec Gazment vo tandem so slasa kje raboti...:)))
AaaAa cel den se otupev vcera (od ko procitav nekoj slicen predlog od tebe na forum) da se setam kaj go imam procitano "Bivsa Turska provincija Grcija," dal bese od kniga nekoja ili natpis i ne mi teknuvashe. Fala shto me potseti :) Se pocesto ugjevo se zaprepastuvaat od "Fyrom" i patetikava na koristenjevo na istava kratenka...belkim ke ima ovakvi natpisi pocesto iako nekoi obzervacii negovi ne se bash fantasticni, ama aj stranec e :)
marko_polog Makedonecot za kratko vreme se zaborava, i ime i zname da ti smeni i palenje cigari na teroristi i sega ke mi pravite akcii sto ne e nisto drugo osven gubenje vreme, Na Grcite im uspea toa sto sakava da napravat so imeto i znameto (fala mu na SDS), pa sega vie izmisluvajte stotini iminja.
Strelec Marko, oti si so tolku negativna energija vo sebe?:) Sekoj post ti e so karanja, navreduvanje itn. Imashe eden na forumov shto znaeshe da reche: Get a life!:) Daj ti se molam!:)))
Thunder from down under za olimpiskite igri ke zemime od onie balonite so se kako od "GOOD YEAR" i ke mapisime "ENYOY YOUR STAY IN FORMER MACEDONIAN PROVINCE OF GREECE" i ke si lebdeeme nad glavniot stadion so im e vo atina , ne ke smeeat da ne urnat dolu ke bidime centar na atencija ke ne snimaat site televizii , i na poluvreme so podobranci ke skokame so staroto zname makedonsko , prv strlec ke skokni ima grcite eden po eden od maka da umiraat
Strelec Bravo be Tandr!:) Prosto jezivo e kolku si dosetliv za nekomu pakosti da pravish!:)))
Homer MakeDonski
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Originally posted by fio
Former Ottoman Possession of Greece Имево е фантастично
Посакувам и јас да бидам јунак над јунаци и да бијам противникот таму каде е слаб Имево е фантастичо ама е нереално оти не може да се поврзи Ottomanskata era со Greece Greece ? What Greece ? Ottoman Possession of Greece ? Мој предлог Пиши Yunistan историски издржливо ,без потреба од докажување Former Ottoman Possession of Yunistan скратено FОPOY
Strelec Абе шампиони сте сите!!!:)
sapeski Имав една преписка лани во ноември месец со парламентарецов. Да ја најдам ќе ја постирам, цар е батката.
fio Former Ottoman Possession of Greece Имево е фантастично Стварно, изводливо е тоа што го кажа Стрелец за менување на зборовите?
Strelec Teoretski e izvodlivo... a praktichno, ako Veliki Poglavica taka kaze!:)
OooOo
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Originally posted by fio
Стварно, изводливо е тоа што го кажа Стрелец за менување на зборовите?
Stvarno.
Strelec Ama bi bilo dobro da se izvrshi jaka propaganda niz cel svet... da se rashiri toa... slasa hackerot da se ufrli po grchki kanali i paramparche da gi napravi... OooOo da stisne zabi i da donira vo kupuvanje prostor na naslovni strani na elitnite vesnici na zapad... fio (so pomosh na elena) kje bide zadolzen za propaganda vo jugoistochna evropa... f9 (aristotel) kje im go pushtime vo UN i tolku kje im zdosadi tamu, da so se' kje se soglasat... Thief ultimatumi kje im postavi i kje im se zakani deka toa kje mu bide posledno obrakjanje so edna takva ideja! marko poloshki so UCK kje gi plashi... a blazhocrni kje im vovede b o j k o t! natush, niki, biki, katja i ostanatite chlenovi na zenskata brigada, kje dobijat specijalni zadachi... ama niv na forumot 'porn' kje gi obelodenime... ne ovde kade shto deca chitaat!:) Pomosh e sekako dobredojdena i od sekoj drug!:) Na primer za Slack ne mi teknuva nekoja specijalna zadacha!:)))