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| f9 | Мексико Сити 12/5/04 10:59:25 AM ВОЕНИ ПИЛОТИ СНИМИЛИЕ НЛО-ОФИЦИЈАЛНО ПОТВРДЕНО Пилоти на воздуполовните сили на Мексико снимиле 11 неидентификувани летачки објекти над јужната провинција Кампеч, потврди портпарол на мексиканското министерство за одбрана. На снимениот материјал се гледаат светли обвјекти што се движат брзо низ небото. Светлата биле снимени во март од 5 пилоти кои користеле инфрацрвена опрема . НЛО-та летале на височина од 3,500 метри и го опкружиле еден од воените авиони на военото воздухопловство, кои биле на рутински лет. Само три од тие објекти се покажале на радарот во авионот. "Не можам да кажам што беше но мислам дека беа целосно реални", вели Марио Адриан Вазкез опреатор за инфрацрвена опрема, во снимено интервју, кое им беше прикажано на новинарите. Капетанот на авионот Магадалено Кастанон рече дека кога авионите престанале да ги следат, објектите исчезнале. "Тие знаеа дека ги следиме нивните светла. Кога престанавме и тие се откажаа" - изјави мајор Кастанон. Филмуваниот материјал на мексиканското воено воздухопловство прв пат беше прикажан на националната телевизија во понеделникот навечер и од тогаш не се симнува од телевизиските екрани. Посебна прес конференција на која беше повторен филмот одржа и Хаиме Мушан, мексинаски научник кој изминатите 10 години ги посветил на феноменот НЛО. Според научникот, станува збор за "историски настан", бидејќи за прв пат во светот е потврден од официјални и тоа воени органи. "Постојат стотици видео снимки на НЛО во светот, но ниту една не е поткрепени и потврдена од воените сили на некоја земја. Тоа е значајно, бидејќи по дефиниција, војската не продуцира измами" - изјавил Мушан. Тој додаде дека лично ги добил симките од секретарот за одбрана на Мексико генерал Рикардо Вега Гарсија уште на 22 април и дека по проучувањето се уверил дека станува збор за НЛО |
| f9 | The interviews were made by researcher Jaime Maussan as part of the investigation in April 2004. The military officials are Major Magdaleno Castaсon as pilot commander of the plane, Lt. German Ramirez Marin, the RADAR operator and Lt. Mario Adrian Velasquez Telles, the FLIR operator. Interview with Major Magdaleno Castaсon, Command pilot. Question: Major, did you feel worried at any time when you realized you were surrounded by these unknown lights ? Answer: According to the information I heard from the operations coordinator chief - he was in charge of the visualization operation on the screens - he mentioned that the objects were in the back, on the left side and in front of us. It was at that moment that I began to feel stressed. Question: But despite that information, none of you could see the objects? Answer: We never saw them. We couldn't make visual contact with them. Question: Then, only through the FLIR was it possible to detect the presence of these objects. Answer: Yes, only with the FLIR system...the infrared camera. Question: Would you say that the objects were invisible to normal sight? Answer: I would say so because none of the crew could see them with simple eyesight. Question: At that distance, where the objects were from you, wouldn't you have been able to see them ? Answer: The closest distance that we had from the objects was 2 miles. Our experience tells us that we can identify conventional aircraft at that distance, so that's the doubt that operation left on us. Question: When you decided to turn off all your airplane lights, you made that decision to avoid any posible conflict with these strange objects ? Answer: I did that perhaps following an instinct, thinking that maybe it could help in some way. As flight commander, I felt I had to take some kind of meassure because the signal I received was that we were being followed and by turning our light off, I was expecting a similar reaction from them. It was an instinct. Question: In the beginning of the incident, was it possible these objects became aware that you were following them ? Answer: It's just a guess, but perhaps there was a connection in that sense because it is very strange that we first pursued them, but when we cancelled that and made a completely opposite turn. The objects then also turned themselves - but now in OUR direction and began following us. I think it could be posible that in some way these objects were aware that we have been following and observing them. Question: What is your conclusion of this experience Major. Answer: What I can say as commander of a plane on a mission, is that this incident serves as a new precedent of future operations yet to come in our military division. As a commander, I accomplished my duty in performing a safe operation and in maintaining the safety of the personal and the equipment. If a similar incident like this takes place in the future and something tragic happens, the fault won't be that of the commander due to a loss of skill or negligence. Question: Are you concerned that these objects cannot be seen. Answer: I'm concerned because if a tragic incident happens, I would not have any evidence that could be used as legal defense in a court of law during any resulting trial. Interview with Lieutenant German Ramirez Marin. (non-FLIR) RADAR operator. Question: When was the first time you became aware of the objects. Answer: When we made a turn to route ourselves to Campeche, the FLIR infrared camera operator detected a target without a shape, just a shine. The target continued being observed with the FLIR. Then we detected other targets at the left side of the plane. They were eleven targets. We never had visual contact with them. Question. The eleven targets appeared on the normal (non-infrared) RADAR ? Answer. No. The eleven targets were not detected on the RADAR screen. Initially, only one target was detected by the RADAR. Then another target appeared at one 'o clock, that's how we describe the position that is in the front but slightly to our right. And then a third one in back of the plane. Those were the only thre targets that appeared in the RADAR screen during the incident. The other ones that were at nine 'o clock, on our left side never appeared on the RADAR. Question: There was a time when these objects surrounded you. Answer: Yes, we can assume that because we had information of a target in the front, another one slightly to the right, one in the back, and according to the FLIR several others on our left side. So, we assumed that we were surrounded. Question: Did you feel fear ? Answer: Fear? ... Yes, personally, there was some fear because we were confronting a situation that has never happened to us before. Question: The objects movements on the RADAR were out of the ordinary ? Answer: Certainly. Our data information - most of all, the icons (blips), the clusters - were always there on the screen, but the information on their movements was heavily changing. Their speed changes were sudden, 60 -120- 300 knots, according to the RADAR information. The same happened with their flight paths. The flying paths showed first 90 degrees and suddenly 130 degrees in the RADAR screen. Question: What does that mean ? Answer: This means that the target changed direction constantly at great speed. There is no aircraft that can perform such direction changes so quickly. Interview with Lieutenant Mario Adrian Velazquez Tellez. FLIR operator. Question: Is it posible that the FLIR gives false information? Answer: It is not posible that the FLIR gives errroneus information because this was visual information of a target that had both heat and movement, so we could not make a reference to something that is not there. Question: Does the FLIR register hot air ? Answer: No. The FLIR doesn't register hot air, it register an object that generates heat. Question: Then the eleven objects that were detected by the FLIR were generating heat. Were these objects there even that you couldn't see them with your eyes? Answer: They were there, and we have the data references by their positions. They were on our left side, at the same laltitude and the same speed. Question: How much heat were the objects generating? Answer. We managed several meassures trying to get an image and all the time the targets maintained themselves very hot. We never found any irregular shape, they were spherical all the time. Question: Is this type of shape irregular with respect to other aircraft you have detected before? Answer: Yes, this is an irregular shape, I know of nothing like the aircraft I have seen. Question: Do you have any previous personal knowledge of any similar incident like this in your experience? Answer: I have never experienced anything like this and I don't not know what to tell you. I don't have any explanation what these objects were. Question: You had detection with the RADAR and the FLIR? Answer. That is correct. The RADAR gave us positions and then with the FLIR we searched that area. We located the targets and we kept those targets on the screen while the RADAR was detecting other targets giving us more positions. We tried to keep all these targets on the screen all the time, so as not to lose them. Question: How did the objects surround the airplane? Answer: The RADAR had objects on the front, slighlty to the right and on the back. The FLIR had several objects on the left so we could say that we were surrounded. Question: Were the objects big in size? Answer: They were big, especially two of them that were closer to us. Question: Could the FLIR have imagined this? Is it posible to manipulate the FLIR information? Answer: No. It is not posible to load information to the FLIR. All the information the FLIR is detecting is out there and is really happening. And the FLIR records this information in real |
| f9 | MEXICAN UFO REPORT TRANSLATED FROM ORIGINAL REPORT ...Digno de comentar, es el hecho que de esta flotilla, sobresale lapresencia de un objeto de enormes proporciones que habrнa de manifestarse durante el transcurso de la mision, esto, ante la mirada atonita de los testigos; y que de acuerdo al testimonio del piloto de al aeronave, podrнa haber tenido el tamano de unedificio de 15 pisos, basandose en la lectura de la camara "FLIR". Posteriormente los aparatos establecieron que aparentemente los objetos rodeaban al avion. Worthy of comment, is the fact that with this flotilla,preceding it, was the presence of an object of enormous proportions that made an appearance during the course of the mission, this, before the amazed looks of the witnesses; and in accordance with the testimony of the pilot of the airplane,would have had to be the size of a fifteen story building. This estimate being based on the readings from the "FLIR".Subsequently the equipment helped to establish the fact that the objects at one point _surrounded_ the airplane. |
| f9 | MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - The Mexican Air Force has released footage of what a UFO expert said were 11 invisible unidentified flying objects picked up by an infrared camera as they whizzed around a surveillance plane. A long-time believer in flying saucers, journalist Jaime Maussan told a news conference on Tuesday the objects were real and seemed "intelligent" after they at one point changed direction and surrounded the plane chasing them. "They were invisible to the eye but they were there, there is no doubt about it. They had mass, they had energy and they were moving about," he said, after showing a 15-minute video he said the Defense Ministry gave him permission to publicize. The ministry confirmed to Reuters it had provided the video, filmed by the Air Force on March 5 over the eastern coastal state of Campeche. "We are not alone! This is so weird," one of the pilots can be heard yelling, after the plane's crew switched on an infrared camera to track the objects, first picked up by radar. The film, recorded by a plane looking for drugs trafficking near the Gulf of Mexico, shows 11 objects as blobs of light that hover in formation or dart about, sometimes disappearing into cloud. Mexico's most popular nightly news broadcast showed the video on Monday night. Interviewed by Mausson on another section of the video, the pilots said they grew nervous when the objects, still invisible, turned back during a chase and surrounded the plane. "There was a moment when ... the screens showed they were behind us, to the left and in front of us. It was at that point that I felt a bit tense," said Maj. Magdaleno Castanon. Mexico has a long history of fanciful UFO sightings, most of which are dismissed by scientists as space debris, missiles, weather balloons, natural weather phenomena or hoaxes. |
| f9 | EXCLUSIVE Mexican DoD Acknowledges UFOs In Mexico By Santiago Yturria [email protected] Exclusive for Rense.com - All Rights Reserved ©2004-SANTIAGO YTURRIA IMAGES COURTESY OF MR. JAIME MAUSSAN Сликите се на овој сајд= http://www.rense.com/general52/deff.htm |
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| f9 | ЦНН=MEXICO CITY, Mexico (AP) -- Mexican Air Force pilots filmed 11 unidentified flying objects in the skies over southern Campeche state, a Defense Department spokesman confirmed Tuesday. A videotape made widely available to the news media on Tuesday shows the bright objects, some sharp points of light and others like large headlights, moving rapidly in what appears to be a late-evening sky. The lights were filmed on March 5 by pilots using infrared equipment. They appeared to be flying at an altitude of about 3,500 meters (11,480 feet), and allegedly surrounded the Air Force jet as it conducted routine anti-drug trafficking vigilance in Campeche. Only three of the objects showed up on the plane's radar. "Was I afraid? Yes. A little afraid because we were facing something that had never happened before," said radar operator Lt. German Marin in a taped interview made public Tuesday. "I couldn't say what it was ... but I think they're completely real," added Lt. Mario Adrian Vazquez, the infrared equipment operator. Vazquez insisted that there was no way to alter the recorded images. The plane's captain, Maj. Magdaleno Castanon, said the military jets chased the lights "and I believe they could feel we were pursuing them." When the jets stopped following the objects, they disappeared, he said. A Defense Department spokesman confirmed Tuesday that the videotape was filmed by members of the Mexican Air Force. The spokesman declined to comment further and spoke on customary condition of anonymity. The video was first aired on national television Monday night then again at a news conference Tuesday by Jaime Maussan, a Mexican investigator who has dedicated the past 10 years to studying UFOs. "This is historic news," Maussan told reporters. "Hundreds of videos (of UFOs) exist, but none had the backing of the armed forces of any country. ... The armed forces don't perpetuate frauds." Maussan said Secretary of Defense Gen. Ricardo Vega Garcia gave him the video on April 22. |
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