| Antichka pederastija. Dali site bile dvocevki? |
| Bicho |
Eh cheda Makedonski, voini Svetovidovi, si serfam ja taka po netot i si baram "fakti" i "dokazi" koi mnogu grnci i bukari, a i brakja mi gi baraat i naletav na eden mnogu interesen [url="http://andrejkoymasky.com/liv/fam/bioa1/aesc1.html"]link[/url]. Otkako kje prochita chovek vakvo neshto se prashuva: Doboga pa zarem navistina site Grcie se (bile) pederi?!
Uzhivajte, ama ne mnogu! Khhhhhhhh[:D][:o)][:D]
"Aeschines was a leading player in the diplomatic and military manoeuvres which reached their climax in the battle of Chaeronea (338 BC), where Philip of Macedon defeated a Greek alliance led by Athens and Thebes,
Demostenes, the greatest orator of the age, was associated with Aeschines in the search for peace, but a fundamental split soon developed between them. Aeschines came to stand for peaceful cohexistence with Philip, whereas Demostenes, distrusting Philip's intentions, advocated resistence by force.
Aeschines accused Trimarcus, a substaier of Demostenes, of being a hetairos (homosexual prostitute). He was not against love between people of the same sex , in fact he acknowledges that he himself is erotikos (a lover of boys), and he also wrote poems of an amatory nature for boys.
A prose work containing important information on Athenian law and throws much light on popular attitudes toward male love is Aeschines' speech, Against Timarchus (345 B.C.E.). Demosthenes had accused Aeschines of betraying the city's interests in its negotiations with Philip of Macedon, and a popular demagogue named Timarchus had joined him in the indictment.
Aeschines' defense was to accuse Timarchus of having led the life of a male courtesan: Athens had a law that men who prostituted themselves lost their civic rights and could not bring charges in the courts.
What is striking about Aeschines' speech, however, is the pains he takes to make it clear that he is not opposed to male love affairs generally. He imagines that some Athenian general will appear in Timarchus' defense and attack Aeschines as an opponent of "honorable love" and a threat to traditional Athenian culture.
Wanting to appear on the popular side of a long-standing debate, Aeschines quotes lengthy passages from the Iliad to argue for the view that Achilles and Patroclus were indeed lovers. He names approvingly various young Athenians well known for having attracted lovers through their beauty.
He confesses, moreover, that he too has made a nuisance of himself by pursuing young men in the gymnasia and has written erotic verse. Aeschines' rhetoric throughout his speech demonstrates how strongly Athenian sentiment in the late classical period favored male love, provided it was not tainted by mercenary motives."
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Pederastvoto bila najnormalna pojava vo antikata kako i lezbejstvoto. Terminot lezbejstvo doaga od grckiot ostrov Lezbos. Site vladeteli grcki, rimski, persiski pa i makedonski uzivale vo homosex. Duri se idelo do tamu sto maz sto ke zavedel drug maz go smetale za ponadaren, povozvisen i mu se voshituvale drugite.......Ako gi poglednete antickite grcki vazi, tanjiri i sliki ke vidite mnostvo homosexualni akti na niv.... |
| Bicho |
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Originally posted by bitushanec
Site vladeteli grcki, rimski, persiski pa i makedonski uzivale vo homosex.
Aaaaa, Bitushanec tuka moram da ne se slozham so tebe brat! Vidish Rimjanite, za vreme na Republikata i prviot period na Imperijata bile MNOOOGU konzervativno opshtestvo. Homoseksualizmot im bil mnogu odvraten, kako i na site "varvarski" narodi vo Evropa (vkluchitelno i Germani i Sloveni). Ne zaboravaj deka Grcite za celo vreme gi smetale Rimjanite za varvari isto kao i Makedoncite!!! Makedoncite i nivnite kralevi se do Aleksandar I Filhelen isto taka se zgrozuvale od taa Grchka praktika, koja vprochem e ushte eden dokaz za ne-Evropejstvoto na Grcite! Zashto go velam sevo ova? Pa ednostavno homoseksualizmot im e svojstven na istochnjachkite narodi, vkluchitelno: Site Semiti bez iskluchok (Arapi osobeno, Evrei i GRCI), Turci i HE HE BUGARI, razbira se! Dodeka kaj zapadnite, t.e. Evropskite narodi sodomijata e neshto gadno i protivprirodno i tokmu toa gi pravelo zaostanati vo ochite na Grcite, koi neli bile "open-minded" i "non-prejudiced"! |
| Christian |
more pederaana |
| Great_Macedonian |
Pa zatoa aleksandar bil bisexualec, zas bil samo pola grk (po majka) hehehe |
| Bicho |
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Originally posted by Great_Macedonian
Pa zatoa aleksandar bil bisexualec, zas bil samo pola grk (po majka) hehehe
Ха, ха, ха, е ова е најлуцидната досетка шо сум ја чул у последно време! [:D][:o)][:D] |
| angomako |
bicho,a kako kje go protolkuvas faktot sto sega samo kaj nas ima nekakvi si tamu arhaizmi od tipot
"imas-nemas g'z"...
pa posle legendarnoto "kaaaj si be PE.ER"....i slicni atavizmi...
si vikam toa drevmite slavjani da ne se izmesale malce povekje nego li sto treba,a?:)
zasto mi izgleda deka samo kaj nas makedoncite kako da postojat vakvi kolokvijalizmi..i kaj nikoj drug(!)
kaj grcite imas na primer blaga retardiranost od tipot "malaka"-drkadzija...
ama obicno kaj site se raboti za "imas-nemas muda" i slicno...(popravete me ako gresam)
opinions,anybody?moze treba i ova da postirame na forumite kako lingvisticki dokaz deka ete,nie sme poanticki i deka ace,na kraj kraevi e NAS:)
so mislite kako mu vikal ace na drugar mu toj generalot,kako se vikase,koga kje se vidle posle bitka..?
kaaaj si be pe-eer,kazi so im napraivme na toa persijcite.. |
| Bicho |
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Originally posted by angomako
bicho,a kako kje go protolkuvas faktot sto sega samo kaj nas ima nekakvi si tamu arhaizmi od tipot
"imas-nemas g'z"...
pa posle legendarnoto "kaaaj si be PE.ER"....i slicni atavizmi...
si vikam toa drevmite slavjani da ne se izmesale malce povekje nego li sto treba,a?:)
zasto mi izgleda deka samo kaj nas makedoncite kako da postojat vakvi kolokvijalizmi..i kaj nikoj drug(!)
kaj grcite imas na primer blaga retardiranost od tipot "malaka"-drkadzija...
ama obicno kaj site se raboti za "imas-nemas muda" i slicno...(popravete me ako gresam)
opinions,anybody?moze treba i ova da postirame na forumite kako lingvisticki dokaz deka ete,nie sme poanticki i deka ace,na kraj kraevi e NAS:)
so mislite kako mu vikal ace na drugar mu toj generalot,kako se vikase,koga kje se vidle posle bitka..?
kaaaj si be pe-eer,kazi so im napraivme na toa persijcite..
Daaa Bolen Dojchin koga go predizvikal Crna Arapina mu rekol: "Ajbe se probame, ako imash g'z!", A Sekula Detule na Musa Kesedzhi mu rekol:" ajbe koj ima pogolem g'z da te vidam!" A pak komitite koga kje se videle se pregrnuvale i si vikale:" kaj si be pe'er!"
Idi be Ango ne me zaebavaj! Kolokvijalizmi vlezeni vo upotreba od pred pechesnaest godini mi spomnuvash! Kaj nashiot narod g'z se upotrebuva samo za rabota koga se odnesuva muabetot. Primer: "Rabotata saka gaz, a musakata maz"; "Spotni go gazot", itn. Za borba sekogash mashkosta se spomenuvala. "Koj e mazh da vidam", "Ima li mazh", "Koj e junak da se obidi so mene..." itn.
Vprochem Crncite si se vikaat :Mothaf*cka, pa sho da ne znachi deka site se so Edipov kompleks. Genezata na toj zbor e podlaboka, ama za toa drugpat! |
| angomako |
pronajdeno na kulata vo dura europos,izvadok od dijalogot pomegju ace i hefaestion:
"kazius batkos trteikus persianous mashala"
lingvisticka analiza:
-kazius-kaza,rece-he said
-batkos-brother
-trteikus-to bend down
-persianous-greek for persians
-mashala-the origin of this word is not clear as well,it apears to be of tukish origin,but considering the fact that asia minor was largely inhabited by slavs in those times,it might also be slavic word with the meaning of-wowhohow
free translation:
"say brother,have we bend down the persians,wohohow"
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А бе пе.ери, шо ваја работа бе?
Се знае дека Макеоднците не биле и не се впуштале во неприродни сексуални занимации.
Сеуште кај арапите (на кои им припаѓаат и грекос и в(б)оулгарос, се разбира) хомосексуализмот е широко распространет.
А бе, кога бев Кувајт, за да може маж и жена да шетаат за рака, мора да носат документ дека се во брак, а јас се изнагледав мажој како си шетаат, под рака, за рака, а најмногу за малите прстиња фатени.
Токму така е и в северна Грција.
Значи да не се лажеме. Педери се, двоцевки се. Не ги бива!! |
| Christian |
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so mislite kako mu vikal ace na drugar mu toj generalot,kako se vikase,koga kje se vidle posle bitka..?
kaaaj si be pe-eer,kazi so im napraivme na toa persijcite..
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Daaa Bolen Dojchin koga go predizvikal Crna Arapina mu rekol: "Ajbe se probame, ako imash g'z!", A Sekula Detule na Musa Kesedzhi mu rekol:" ajbe koj ima pogolem g'z da te vidam!" A pak komitite koga kje se videle se pregrnuvale i si vikale:" kaj si be pe'er!"
[:D]LOL lele bre me umrevte od smea.alal da vie[:D] volku slatko odamna se nemam nasmeano |