Airbus A380 i opsto za avijacija
Airbus A380 i opsto za avijacija
zlotty_co_380 A specialist crew will fly the 555-seat behemoth, the A380 Airbus, in every imaginable condition, including sub-zero temperatures, snow and torrential rain. Code-named MSN101, the first A380 to take to the skies will fly for at least 600 hours over the next year, with different weights on board, taking off and landing at various airports and undergoing rigorous cabin tests. The French-based company is expecting thousands of passionate aircraft enthusiasts to surround its Toulouse base to watch the jet take off. Although Airbus is remaining tight-lipped, the first test flight is expected to be on April 9. Singapore Airlines will be the first to take delivery of the A380 next year, and will use it on the Sydney-to-London route. Qantas and Emirates will also be flying the A380 next year. [img]http://k.1asphost.com/Zlotty/images/a01.jpg[/img] [img]http://k.1asphost.com/Zlotty/images/a02.jpg[/img] [img]http://k.1asphost.com/Zlotty/images/a03.jpg[/img] Sydney - London non stop, that is great news. It should be about 26 hours non stop.
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abe hahahahah na krov si se kachil da slikash?
eve vidi sto ubavo e od dnevna soba : ) aj posle ako nacekam nekoja tajvanka ke ti ja pratam , da ja spjerdolish p.s: nagradno prasanje: ovaa zenskava se spremase da poletuva ili sletuva a? [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT0690.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT0691.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT0692.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/PICT0693.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/PICT0694.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/PICT0695.jpg[/IMG]
concrete A ova nesto na sosema drugiot kraj na zanaetot!!!! www.woopy-fly.com pa posle na linkot videos du Woopy motoris#233; Kriloto za razlika od obicen paraglajder se pumpa i so dva supresora (so mali elektromotori) sto sto go pravi pokruto i ovozmozuva mnogu pogolemi brzini..... mnogu interesna idnina za sportsko letanje...ako se zeme vo obzir deka se odi vo edna torba.......
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Originally posted by zlotty_co_380
A be kako sakas kazi ama da znaes deka ke pravi "lom" po svetov, za goelm e golem, da leta znae da leta se poakza, nezanm sto ti znaci toa sto vikas go "letaat kako na jajca". Sekako Boeing se plasi od Airbus zaradi konkurencijata
Тебе те импресионира што е голем? Па и Антонов беше голем (Не многу помал од Ербас) еве ги димензиите на двата: A380-800 Wing span:79.8m, length 73m, height 24,1m, speed 880km/h An-225 Wing span:88.4m, lenght 84m, height 18,1m, speed 800km/h Не знам шо толку се возбудвиш за овој авион кога за некоја година ќе нема примена, на 3-4 аеродроми во светот ќе биде актуелен и толку. Мирја истото го снајде, премногу пари кошта да се лета, нема примена само за некои огромни работи, шатлови или слично, Конкордот беше чудо, тргнуваш на пладне од Париз во понеделник стигнуваш Њу Јорк на работа на сабајле... Верувам со овој проект Ербас или ќе го повлече или ќе пропадне. Еве ја Мријата споредена со 380 [img]http://members.lycos.co.uk/aerospace21/antonov/an-225.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.aircraft-info.net/aircraft/jet_aircraft/airbus/A380/a380.jpg[/img]
OooOo Ja u podrum si chuvam eden Tupoljev u sluchaj da zatreba
Thunder from down under ne be 26 sati, 16 nekade bi trebalo da e, jas imam za 18 dojdeno, ednash samo zastanavne vo singapore
SirAndReW Interesno :) poveke lici na hotel odkolku na avion..
n/a A380 kje uspee da poleta ne e toa problemot, no filozofijata na letanjeto e podruga i tuka Airbus moze gadno da se zezne vo procenkata (iako ne e za otfrlanje scenario na dzentlmenski dogovor medju Airbus i Boeing da ne se unistuvaat tuku da gio podelat pazarot kako 2 preostanati svetski kompanii). Airbusovata filozofija e da se leta od "hub" do "hub" so najgolem broj patnici za najevtina cena. Znaci A380 ili slicni golemi avioni prenesuvaat patnici do nekolkute "hub"-ovi (t.e. centri kako sto e Frankfurt na primer), a po sletuvanjeto tie pak odat ne drugi relacii so drugi, pomali avioni. Potencijalen problem e sto trosokot ne se namaluva zosto se iziskuvaat povekje mali letovi togas a i ponatamu se leta dva ili povekje pati (znaci pak 2 karti za dva leta). Plus kje ima cekanje, amoze da se stvori i pogolema guzva zaradi pogolemata koncentracija na patnici. Trosocite za modifikacija na hangarite i pistite se dodatni. Filozofijata na Boeing e da napravi univerzalen avion: najlesen, so najmala potrosuvacka na gorivo, najbrz (0.85+ mach koj e minimumot i na koj letaat B-747 i B-777), + da primi optimalen broj na patnici. Avion kojsto kje leta od bilo koj aerodrom do bilo koj aerodorom. Shodno B-7E7 Dreamliner (ili 787) koj slovi za "supper efficient" vo sekoj pogled no sepak luksuzen: http://www.newairplane.com/ Zasega, Boeing ima 191 poracki za 7E7 od 15 kompanii.
zlotty_co_380 [img]http://k.1asphost.com/Zlotty/airbus/a380.gif[/img] [img]http://k.1asphost.com/Zlotty/airbus/a380seats.gif[/img] Powerplants A380-800 - Four 311kN (70,000lb), initially derated to 302kN (68,000lb), later growing to 374kN (84,000lb) thrust Rolls-Royce Trent 900 or 363kN (81,500lb) thrust Engine Alliance (General Electric-Pratt & Whitney) GP-7200 turbofans. Performance A380-800 - Max cruising speed M 0.88. Long range cruising speed M 0.85. Range 14,800km (8,000nm). Service ceiling 43.000ft (13,100m). A380-800F - Range 10,370km (5,600nm). Weights A380-800 - Operating empty 277,000kg (610,700lb), max takeoff 560,000kg (1,234,600lb). A380-800F - Operating empty 252,000kg (555,600lb), max takeoff 590,000kg (1,300,700lb). Dimensions A380-800 - Wing span 79.8m (261ft 10in), length 72,75m (238ft 8in). Height 24,08 m (79ft) Capacity A380-800 - Flightcrew of two. Standard seating for 555 passengers on two decks in a three class arrangement. Qantas plans to fit its aircraft with 523 seats (in three classes). A380 has 49% more floor area but only 35% more seats (in 555 seat configuration) than the 747-400, allowing room for passenger amenities such as bars, gymnasiums and duty free shops. Cargo capacity 38 LD3s or 13 pallets. Production 149 firm orders (including 27 freighters) by January 2005. Airbus has forecast a market for approx 1235 airliners of 400 seats and above through to 2020. First deliveries in early 2006. History The 555 seat, double deck Airbus A380 is the most ambitious civil aircraft program yet. When it enters service in March 2006, the A380 will be the world's largest airliner, easily eclipsing Boeing's 747. Airbus first began studies on a very large 500 seat airliner in the early 1990s. The European manufacturer saw developing a competitor and successor to the Boeing 747 as a strategic play to end Boeing's dominance of the very large airliner market and round out Airbus' product line-up. Airbus began engineering development work on such an aircraft, then designated the A3XX, in June 1994. Airbus studied numerous design configurations for the A3XX and gave serious consideration to a single deck aircraft which would have seated 12 abreast and twin vertical tails. However Airbus settled upon a twin deck configuration, largely because of the significantly lighter structure required. Key design aims include the ability to use existing airport infrastructure with little modifications to the airports, and direct operating costs per seat 15-20% less than those for the 747-400. With 49% more floor space and only 35% more seating than the previous largest aircraft, Airbus is ensuring wider seats and aisles for more passenger comfort. Using the most advanced technologies, the A380 is also designed to have 10-15% more range, lower fuel burn and emissions, and less noise. The A380 features an advanced version of the Airbus common two crew cockpit, with pull-out keyboards for the pilots, extensive use of composite materials such as GLARE (an aluminium/glass fibre composite), and four 302 to 374kN (68,000 to 84,000lb) class Rolls-Royce Trent 900 or Engine Alliance (General Electric/Pratt & Whitney) GP7200 turbofans now under development. Several A380 models are planned: the basic aircraft is the 555 seat A380-800 (launch customer Emirates). The 590 ton MTOW 10,410km (5620nm) A380-800F freighter will be able to carry a 150 tonne payload and is due to enter service in 2008 (launch customer FedEx). Potential future models will include the shortened, 480 seat A380-700, and the stretched, 656 seat, A380-900. On receipt of the required 50th launch order commitment, the Airbus A3XX was renamed A380 and officially launched on December 19, 2000. In early 2001 the general configuration design was frozen, and metal cutting for the first A380 component occurred on January 23, 2002, at Nantes in France. In 2002 more than 6000 people were working on A380 development. On January 18, 2005, the first Airbus A380 was officially revealed in a lavish ceremony, attended by 5000 invited guests including the French, German, British and Spanish president and prime ministers, representing the countries that invested heavily in the 10-year, Ђ10 billion+ ($13 billion+) aircraft program, and the CEOs of the 14 A380 customers, who had placed firm orders for 149 aircraft by then. The out of sequence A380 designation was chosen as the "8" represents the cross-section of the twin decks. The first flight is scheduled for March 2005, and the entry into commercial service, with Singapore Airlines, is scheduled for March 2006. Apart from the prime contractors in France, Germany, the United Kingdom and Spain, components for the A380 airframe are also manufactured by industral partners in Australia, Austria, Belgium, Finland, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland and the United States. A380 final assembly is taking place in Toulouse, France, with interior fitment in Hamburg, Germany. Major A380 assemblies are transported to Toulouse by ship, barge and road. On July 24, 2000, Emirates became the first customer making a firm order commitment, followed by Air France, International Lease Finance Corporation (ILFC), Singapore Airlines, Qantas and Virgin Atlantic. Together these companies completed the 50 orders needed to launch the programme. Later, the following companies also ordered the A380: FedEx (the launch customer for the A380-800F freighter), Qatar Airways, Lufthansa, Korean Air, Malaysia Airlines, Etihad Airways, Thai Airways and UPS. Four prototypes will be used in a 2200 hours flight test programme lasting 15 months. I wasn't able to find any confirmation for the first test flight. But I hope that it will be on 15.04.2005 or 09.04.2005
zlotty_co_380 Sreda na 27.05.2005 ke bide nov istoriski den za avijacijata. Noviot Airbus A380 ke go izvede svojot prv flight test na aerodormot vo Tuluz, Francija. Oba se najnovi vesti sto gi javija francuskite mediumi utrinava. Istototo e i vejke potvrdeno od strana na Airbus, samo se uste ne se znae vremeto koga ke bide letot. Vo zivo od Francija moze da gledate na www.airbus.com a i povejke stranski televizii ke prenosuvaat vo zivo ovoj nastan kako CNN i BBC. Inaku kako sto mozam da vidam site letovi od Evropa za Tuluz se polni vo narednive 2 dena, a ima i polno carter letovi zakazano. Se nadevam toa sto go kazaa e visitna i nema da go smenat datumot pak, no se zavisii od vremenskite uslovi. A posle prviot komercijalen test flight ke bide od nekoj grad vo evropa do nekoj grad vo Kina (najverojatno Hong Kong ili Peking a i Tokio e na listata). Well done Airbus.... I wish to be there in Toulouse but unfortunately this weekend I have NRT, I thought that I will have FCO to be little bit close . Thank you God for Airbus A380 A380 – the new generation of flaying
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Originally posted by zlotty_co_380
Thank you God for Airbus A380 A380 – the new generation of flaying
Мое мислење е дека А380 ќе ја има истата судбина како и Конкорд. Оваа идеја нема да успее во скоро време, се појави многу рано, светската авијација сеуште не е спремна да се расформира на ваков чекор.
n/a concrete: jas lobiram isklucivo za Makedonija! [;)] Vidi, ima reakci zosto Airbus uste od samiot pocetok proizveduvase so pomos na vladini subvencii: prviot avion A300 go sozdadoa so vladini subvencii od $800 (mn. pari togas), a A310 vo 1978 so $1 milijarda. Sledniot A320 vo mart 1984 g. so $2.5 milijardi, a A330 i 340 vo juni 1987 g. so $4.5 milijardi. Ne znam zosto velis deka se podobri - nema tuka nisto novo sem povekje lugje. Prasanjeto e: pogolem avion ili pak ista golemina koja sto nudi poekonomicni patuvanja (zaradi toa kako e napraven i kolku gorivo trosi - shodno nudi direktni letovi namesto connecting fligts)? Shodno Boing kje proizveduva fuel-efficient B-7E7 na koj Airbus saka da parira so A350 ($5 milijardi investicija no sega vleze so A380), vekje imaat nov B-777 (vo medjuvreme kje se modernizira B-747 za transport): http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q1/nr_050222g.html Verzijata 7E7-3 kje ima 289 patnici i domet od 4000 milji -- sto e optimum -- a podolgometnata verzija 7E7-8 kje ima 220 patnici domet od 9800 milji. Kako merilo: do krajot na 2003ta godina pocetok na 2004ta, Kina plati $7.2 milijardi za 7E7, $1 milijarda za 5 A380. Slicno, japoncite (Nippon Air) gi menuvaat avionite za 7E7. Koga bi lobiral, sigurno najvnosno bi bilo e za Lockheed!
n/a Inaku, najgolem avion na svetot zasega e ukrainskiot AN-225 Mirja. Ima eden pogolem, no toj e amfibiski, Beriev Be-2500: http://www.sergib.agava.ru/russia/beriev/be/2500/be2500_e.htm
zlotty_co_380 Pred povejke od 30 godini koga se proizvede Boeing 747 site se cudea na taa "ptica" sto cudo ke bese, no dodeka Boing slavese 30 godini za Boeing 747 , AirBus rabotese so polna parea , i sto sesluci proizvedoa "UFO", koj znae dali ke uspee da poleta. Kako i da Boeing 747 poleka se penzionira, site kompanii vo svetot poleka , poleka go povlekuvaat od upotreba, QF, SQ, CX, MH,AA, UA, LH, TG,AF, LX (swiss air) gi povlece uste pred 2-3 godini i gi zameni so Airbus A340, gorenavedenite kmapnii vejke napravija naracki za airbus a380 , momentalno i za airbus a340-600 koj sto e i momentalno i najdolg avion vo svetot, TG, (thay airways) go povlece Boeing 747 pred eden mesec za evropa, na relacija bankok-zurich letaat so nov airbusa340-600, no od airbus kategorijata imaat proizvedeno najdobriot avion dosega za long letovi airbu 340-500 LEADERSHIP, ovoj moze da leta non stop preku 19 casovi. Emirates leta sekoj den od Dubai do Sydney i Melbourne i Perth non stop, podocna SQ (singapore Airlines) donesoa airbus a340-500 i momntalno ja drzaat najdolaata relacija vo svetot bez zastanuvanje: SIN-EWR-SIN (non stop) / ewr=new york , newark international airport Singapore Airlines operate the A345LEADERSHIP from SIN - EWR - SIN non-stop. SQ0022 departs Singapore at 1210 and arrives the same day at 1835 EWR time. = 18 hours 25 minutes. SQ0021 departs EWR at 2300 and arrives two days later in Singapore at 0535 = 18 hours 35 minutes The service will be daily and will be Singapore Airlines Limited's only flights to and from EWR Airport. Ova zasega e najdolgata relacija vo svetot bez zastanuvanje, no za brzo vreme Qantas ke ja prevzeme na relacija SYD-LHR (London - Heatrow) so noviot Airbus A380 za okolu 26 casovi, dodeka site go cekaat airbus a 380 da pristigne pogledajte sto se slucuva na Changi (International airport - Singapore) Сингапурскиот аеродром се шири за да го слета најголемиот светски авион СИНГАПУР, (ДПА) - Управата на цивилното воздухопловство на Сингапур ќе го прошири аеродромот "Чанги" во истоиментиот град за да може да го прими најголемиот авион на светот - "ербас 380". Авиокомпанијата "Сингапур ерлајнс" или "СИА" ќе биде првиот светски превозник кој ќе го лета двокатниот авион со 555 седишта во 2006 година, и кој е значително поголем од досегашниот најголем авион "боинг 747" со 420 седишта. За цена од 26 милиони долари аеродромот ќе се прилагоди на големината на "А380" кој е за два метра подолг од "боингот", кој има 70,7 метри, и има опашка повисока за 5 метри. Во план е да се прошируваат локациите на железничката станица и такси-возилата, а и чекалниците ќе се прошират за 10 отсто. Ќе се прошируваат и лентите за багаж, а ќе се воведат 11 воздушни мостови кои ќе го поврзуваат авионот со терминалот. Производителот на "А380" досега има над 120 нарачки, од кој "СИА" ќе купи 10, а можеби и 15 нови авиони. Vremeto ke si go kaze svojeto, no kako i da Boeing 747 ke mi nedostiga zasekogas , i Airbus A380 neoze da se vika "jumbo jet", jumbo bese i ke ostane Boeing 747 -400 , a za Airbus A380 treba da se najde drug "nick"
wolf_pack Koj e toj shto uzhiva 26 saati na avion? Ja palachinka stanam, od 5-6 saati poveke ne[:D][:D][:D]
n/a Toj poletuva, 400 do 800 drugi kje bidat prizemjeni.[;)] AIRBUS PLANS INSPECTIONS WASHINGTON -- European aircraft maker Airbus SAS said Tuesday it plans to ask airlines to inspect hundreds of planes after part of the rudder fell off an A310 jetliner in flight, an incident that resembled the accident that caused a deadly crash in New York in November 2001. A plane belonging to Canadian-based Air Transat lost most of its rudder -- the vertical moving part at the back of the tail fin -- soon after leaving Cuba for Quebec on March 6. The pilot was able to maintain control and returned to Havana. None of the 270 passengers and crew was injured. It's extremely unusual for any part of the rudder to fall off. The reason the Air Transat pilot was able to land the plane safely was that he didn't need the rudder, which is generally used only in crosswinds or when an engine fails, safety experts say. The Canadian Transportation Safety Board has begun an investigation. A performance engineer for the National Transportation Safety Board -- its American counterpart -- is taking part, said NTSB spokesman Ted Lopatkiewicz. Meanwhile, Airbus will ask airlines to conduct detailed inspections of the A310 and A300 rudders said Barbara Kracht, an Airbus spokeswoman. The company is working on the precise recommendations and expects to send them to airlines within two days. "We always want to be on the safe side and take as many precautionary measures as possible, but in a proper frame," Kracht said. "It's pointless to ask for inspections of things which are not relevant." The inspections are likely to apply to some 400 jets -- all A310s in service and those A300s which have the more recent, composite rudders. The Federal Aviation Administration, which is in charge of U.S. air safety, isn't directly involved because it's a French manufacturer, a Canadian airline and a Canadian investigation. Manufacturers -- which are closely involved in investigations -- will often issue preliminary guidance to their customers before the details of an investigation are understood. „We're obviously very interested in understanding what happened,” FAA spokeswoman Laura Brown said. An Airbus A300-600, which has the same rudder system as the A310, crashed in New York in November 2001 after its tail fell off and killed 265 people. The NTSB concluded the co-pilot of American Airlines Flight 587 improperly moved the rudder back and forth to try to steady the plane, which put more pressure on the tail than it could bear. The safety board also ruled that the plane's overly sensitive rudder controls contributed to the accident, as well as the airline's inadequate pilot training. The rudders and tails of the Airbus planes are made of a nonmetallic composite material. Like other aircraft parts, they need to be maintained and inspected to make sure they aren't damaged by weather. Canada's safety board plans to look into the composite construction and the way it's inspected, said Marc Fernandez, the investigator in charge. Fernandez said preliminary information indicates the pilot did not try to move the rudder on the Air Transat airliner. The safety board, along with a team from Airbus, plans to disassemble the tailfin on Friday and take it to Germany, where it was manufactured, so tests can be conducted. One potential hindrance to the investigation is that the part of the rudder that fell in the ocean is unlikely to be retrieved. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/apbiz_story.asp?category=1310&slug=France%20Airb...
n/a Uste: ......as Canadian investigators try to discover what caused this near catastrophe, the specialist internet bulletin boards used by pilots, accident investigators and engineers are buzzing. One former Airbus pilot, who now flies Boeings for a major United States airline, told The Observer: „This just isn't supposed to happen. No one I know has ever seen an airliner's rudder disintegrate like that. It raises worrying questions about the materials and build of the aircraft, and about its maintenance and inspection regime. We have to ask as things stand, would evidence of this type of deterioration ever be noticed before an incident like this in the air?” He and his colleagues also believe that what happened may shed new light on a previous disaster. In November 2001, 265 people died when American Airlines flight 587, an Airbus A300 model which is almost identical to the A310, crashed shortly after take-off from JFK airport in New York. According to the official report into the crash, the immediate cause was the loss of the plane's rudder and tailfin, though this was blamed on an error by the pilots. There have been other non-fatal incidents. One came in 2002 when a FedEx A300 freight pilot complained about strange „uncommanded inputs” -- rudder movements which the plane was making without his moving his control pedals. In FedEx's own test on the rudder on the ground, engineers claimed its „acuators” -- the hydraulic system which causes the rudder to move -- tore a large hole around its hinges, in exactly the spot where the rudders of both flight 961 and flight 587 parted company from the rest of the aircraft. On Sunday night Ted Lopatkiewicz, spokesperson for the US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), which conducted the flight 587 investigation, said that the board was „closely monitoring” the Canadian inquiry for its possible bearing on the New York crash. „We need to know why the rudder separated from the aircraft before knowing whether maintenance is an issue,” he added. Airbus -- Europe's biggest manufacturing company, to which British factories contribute major components, including aircraft wings -- has now overtaken Boeing to command the biggest share of the global airliner market. In sales literature to operators, it described the A300 series as a „regional profit machine”. The firm recently launched its superjumbo, the two-storey A380, which is due in service next year. Like earlier Airbus models, this relies heavily on „composite” synthetic materials which are both lighter -- and, in theory, stronger -- than aluminium or steel. Fins, flaps and rudders are made of a similar composite on the A300 and A310, of which there are about 800 in service all over the world. Composites are made of hundreds of layers of carbon fibre sheeting stuck together with epoxy resin. Each layer is only strong along the grain of the fibre. Aircraft engineers need to work out from which directions loads will come, then lay the sheets in a complex, criss-cross pattern. If they get this wrong, a big or unexpected load might cause a plane part to fail. It is vital there are no kinks or folds as the layers are laid, and no gaps in their resin coating. Holes between the layers can rapidly cause extensive „delamination” and a loss of stiffness and strength. Airbus, together with aviation authorities on both sides of the Atlantic, insists that any deterioration of a composite part can be detected by external, visual inspection, a regular feature of Airbus maintenance programmes, but other experts disagree. In an article published after the flight 587 crash, Professor James Williams of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, one of the world's leading authorities in this field, said that to rely on visual inspection was „a lamentably naive policy. It is analogous to assessing whether a woman has breast cancer by simply looking at her family portrait.” Williams and other scientists have stated that composite parts in any aircraft should be tested frequently by methods such as ultrasound, allowing engineers to „see” beneath their surface. His research suggests that repeated journeys to and from the sub-zero temperatures found at cruising altitude causes a build-up of condensation inside composites, and separation of the carbon fibre layers as this moisture freezes and thaws. According to Williams, „like a pothole in a roadway in winter, over time these gaps may grow”. Commenting on the vanishing rudder on flight 961, he pointed out that nothing was said about composite inspection in the NTSB's report on flight 587. This was an „unfortunate calamity”, he said. Although the flight 961 rupture had yet be analysed, he continued to believe Airbus's maintenance rules were „inadequate”, despite their official endorsement.
concrete [quote]Originally posted by Misirkov
Toj poletuva, 400 do 800 drugi kje bidat prizemjeni.[;)] Misirkov , da ne si ti isto od tajfata na Boeingovite lobisti Linda Daschle, Tom Daschle & co. Epten go plukaat Airbas....ama onie sto go kupuvaat verojatno ne se lesni na frlanje pari vo veter, mora da imaat nekoja smetka. Makar generalno site zabeguvaat vo toa gigantizmot i so pogresna koncepcija na avionot...mnogu e opasna opsto prifatenata konfiguracija, nasledena od golemite bombarderi.... 1000 luge javnati na toni gorivo....posle dostignuvanje na brzinata na rotacija, stom se podigne nosnoto trkalo se e vo Bozji race.... Ama biznis si e biznis , toj e evolutiven , ne pifaka lesno noviteti iako se ocigledno podobri....
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zlotty_co_380 [img]http://k.1asphost.com/Zlotty/airbus/a380.jpg[/img] It is almost done, ready for the first flight
n/a Almost? [:D] Noviot B-777LR Worldliner e vekje gotov, probnite poletuvanja se napraveni vekje na 8mi mart: http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q1/nr_050308h.html Znaci sega ovoj avion drzi najdolga relacija i e daleku poekonomicen od bilo koj sto Airbus moze da ponudi. Tehnoloskite noviteti se neverojatni na site delovi na avionot: http://777.newairplane.com/ (klikni na innovations)
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Originally posted by Misirkov
Almost? [:D]
Sto ima smesno tolku misrkov, pa skoro e gotov, i iljada pati e podobar od Boeing 7E7
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Originally posted by Misirkov
Almost? [:D] Noviot B-777LR Worldliner e vekje gotov, probnite poletuvanja se napraveni vekje na 8mi mart: http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q1/nr_050308h.html Znaci sega ovoj avion drzi najdolga relacija i e daleku poekonomicen od bilo koj sto Airbus moze da ponudi. Tehnoloskite noviteti se neverojatni na site delovi na avionot: http://777.newairplane.com/ (klikni na innovations)
Vo greska si, najgolema relacija seuste drzi AIRBUS A340-500 LEADERSHIP leta sekoj den na relacija Singapore - NewYork non stop, so nad 18 casa. B777 normlno ke go napravat pobrzo zosto e pomal, pa za neolku meseci koga ke pocne airbus da leta, toj ke go zeme vodstvoto na relacija Sydney- London i sekako Qnatas ke go leta. No prvi ke go dobija SQ Singapore Airlines, pa Emirates, Pa Qanatas i uste 18 drugi komapnii, pocekaj malce sega ke ti pratam za B7E7 pa sporedi gi, B7e7 nemoze da mu se fati na Airbus A380, toa e isto kako d gi sporeduvas Sydney so Skopje.
n/a Ne mi e jasno zosto ti licno si se nasol zasegnat dali Airbus kje prevagne? Jas sakam da gi zezam toe od Airbus zosto mnogu se duvaat, a kasnat so proizvodstvoto. A380 momentalno e vo mnogu losa pozicija (sto ne znaci deka taka kje ostane). Nivniot tim premina mnogu preku zacrtaniot budzet za R&D i dosega imaat samo 154 naracki. Za da bidat profitabilni, potrebno e da imaat barem 300 naracki samo prvata godina. B-7E7 Dreamliner koj Boeing dosta podocna pocna da go razviva dosega ima okolu 200 naracki. A kolku e poekonomicen i poefikasen B7E7 doprva samiot kje se uveris: 2 supersnazni motori namesto 4, daleku polesen (znaci povekje kje moze da tovari i pobrzo da leta), arguably pobezbeden, i kje leta od maltene bilo koj aerodrom na bilo koj drug aerodrom na svetot. I ne se lazi sebe si, od 8mi mart navamu, znaci otkako zavrsi probniot let na B-777LR Worldliner, pokraj sto e mnogu poekonomicen od A340, toj avion KJE drzi najdolga relacija 9,420 nauticki milji t.e. 17,445 km. Dodeka relacijata Singapore-New York e nesto nad 16,600 km. Toa e nad 1000km povekje so pomalku gorivo, a ista brzina. Zatoa Airbus denes kompenzira so proizveduvanje pogolem kvantitet na pomali i ponekvalitetni avioni kako 320 na primer. Na krajot samo pazarot kje odredi cii avioni se poposakuvani. EU kje leta so svoite zosto mora zaradi politikata, no ako kompaniite koi se i vo onaka teska situacija prodolzat debelo da gubat pari, samite kje se orientiraat kon poekonomicni avioni. Pozdrav,
concrete http://www.micom.net/oops/ interesni fotografii.....a ova za zlotty i "letackoto" drustvo ovde : Samo 200 grama SEMTEX .....eee!!!..i mene me iznenadi !!!!!
zlotty_co_380 Znaes sto Misirokv, me mavas tamu kaj sto najmnogu me boli, [:D] , se salam, avijacijata mi je najomilena tema, Za Airbus A380 , se zalagam , deka e na 2 sprata,dosega nema nito takvo napraveno vo istorijata na covecstvoto, me potsejka na Boeing 747, go sakam i verubam deka ke napravat BUM, malce ima naracki od povejke pricini, ne sekoj aredodrom vo svetot moze da go primi. Treba da se prodolzuvaat site pisti za oklu 400-500 metri za nego, isto i terminalite, ne moze na sekoj terminal da se prikaci, najgolem problem e sto dosega na amerikanskiot. kontinent nikoj od aerodromite ne imaat moznost da go primat, so isklucok na nekoj. Site kompanii sto go poracaa, imaat moznost da go koristat na nivnite aerodromi, no prasanje ke bide kade ke letaa so nego?!? Od Evropa samo London i Frankfurt mozat da go prifatat. Sega rabotat i vo Vienna , Zurich,m Amsterdam na prodolzuvanje na termianlite i drugi pogolemi i poznacajni evroopski aerodromi. Singapore Airlines bara Qanats da mu go otstapi Paciificot za da leta na relacija dnevno Sydney-New York (non stop), Qantas ne popusta i nema da mu ja dadat taa relacija vo nikoj slucaj.Kako i da e na ovaa relacija letaat samo Qnatas i United Airlines sekoj den. Od July kako sto kazuvaat od Singapore Airlines , A 380 treba da leta non stop SYD-LHR (london) , no sega se dvoumat dali da pravaat stop vo Singapore, bidejki e nivni avion i sakaat najverojatno da go koristat za nivnite drzavjani da "uzivaat" vo nego. Za B7E7, nemam nisto protiv, slicen e na 777 samo sto e poveke pousovrsen, jas kade i da odam nekade, najmnogu sto gledam e tipot na avionot. Sega za sega samo Boeing 747 go "obozavam" , za brzo vreme ke se penzionira , no kako i da e zasekogas ke mi nedostiga ako go povlecat od upotreba. Za Airbus 340 nemam nisto protiv, skoro site kompanii go zamina namesto B747 kupija A340-300/400/500/600. A340-600 e nadobar spored mene. no A340-500 moze da leta na najdolgi destinacii preku 15 casa non stop. Na relacija SIN - AMS so boeing 777 Singapore airlines leta za 14 casa i 10 min non stop, ke dime sega so B7E7 za kolku saati ke ja pomine ovaa destinacija, a B747 na relacija SIN-AMS leta za 13 casa, a isto i A340. Sekako deka A380 ke bide posporo od mnogu pricini, premnogu tezok, no se kazuva deka prosecna visni ke mu bide 13000 metri na letanje. Vremeto ke go kaze svojeo, ke vidime, no da ne ispadne, na ona najlosoto, ne daj boze. B7E7 letna, se nadevam i A380.
n/a I share you enthusiasm! Se najdobro na Airbus, no da ne ispadne kako sto EU napravi so proektot "Eurofighter" t.e. napravja prosecen i NAJSKAP avion.[;)] Sega seriozno: po namenata i konceptot se raboti za 2 sosema razlicni avioni zaradi dve razlicni filozofii na letanje! Medju drugoto, vidi protiv sto e ispraven Airbus: 1. Celiot avion B-7E7 e napraven od carbon fiber i titan! Ima restrikcija za info za novava tehnologija (idna shesta generacija), no se znae deka ima povekje carbon delovi otkolku sto bilo koj vo Airbus mozel da zamisli. Znaci B7E7 ne e "double decker" kako dizajn, no kje e daleku PORENTABILEN. 2. Airbus sepak nema iskustvo so taka golemi avioni dodeka tehnologijata na Boeing e vojna i isprobana. Na primer, Airbus spojuvaa i varea aluminium na krilata sto bese golem problem i go uspori pravenjeto na avionot. Sega 60% od krilata se od aluminium, 7% titan, 11% magnesium, 10 karbon-grafit i ostanati kompositi (vidi na 3w.NOVA.com). Samo Gospod znae kolku e A380 rizcen? 3. Motorite na B7E7 se mnogu ponapredni od se sto e dosega napraveno kako vo obrtni delovi taka i vo dizajn, snaga i upotreba na gorivo (za sporedba vlezi na sajtot na Boeing za B-777LR za noviteti - iako e mnogu shturo kazano, sepak spomnati se dva dela sto se novi). A filozofijata na avion so 2 motora e SUSHTINSKA RAZLIKA od taa kako A380 so 4 motora - sto Airbus prekjutno ja priznava! Verojatno kje predstoi razvoj na vtora generacija A380 da mu go prodolzat trupot so pojaki motori, a krajevite na krilata verovatno da se svitkaat za da mozat da go stavat vo obicni handzari. Pozdrav,
zlotty_co_380 Meanwhile the Boeing 777-200LR was rolled out on 15th. February and had its maiden flight on March 8th. First delivery January 2006. http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q1/nr_050308h.html I get the feeling that this one will be a fun aeroplane. It will take 300 passengers up to 11,000 miles on 55,000 gallons of fuel. And apparently Boeing are planning some stunts with it - including talking to Qantas about London-Sydney direct, which will really be something if they can pull it off.
zlotty_co_380 Just one example: The A380 is the first large plane to use a high pressure hydraulic system. You certainly know hydraulics are not only used to control the flight controls, but also to brake the plane. Now, the functionality of a new system needs to be tested individually first, so it is not surprising the A380 will need to do quite a lot of taxi runs and simulated aborts, first on dry rwy without any compromising factors like crosswind etc, then in a later stage also on wet rwy and in less favourable conditions to see if the system holds as designed. Testing it takes time and depends not only on planning, but also on weather conditions. How many hours of taxi runs has the 'new' B777-20OLR done? How many times have they simulated a take off followed by an abort? 1? 2? just like for ANY factory new plane... Sorry, but taking a decade long existing plane, fitted with an additional fuel tank and a pair of winglets out for a first flight is just a tiny little bit less complicated than getting airborne with an all new unproven design.
zlotty_co_380 Concentrete and Misirkov ve pozdravuvam so ova, gledam deka i vie ste po avijacijata: Slikite se vistinski i se napraveni na Philipsburg / St. Maarten - Princess Juliana , Netherlands Antilles. Ne sum bil tamu uste, no slednata godina planiram, kade i da odam postojano gi slikam avionite, posleden pat pred okolu 1.5 mesec se vrativ od Korea, i za vreme na letot napraviv okolu 250 sliki, toa stujadesite si pomislija sto pravi ovoj, sekoj del go islika od avionot [:D], pa Boeing 747 bese, mojot omilen, morase.... [img]http://k.1asphost.com/Zlotty/images/af747.jpg[/img] [img]http://k.1asphost.com/Zlotty/images/lx747.jpg[/img] [img]http://k.1asphost.com/Zlotty/images/af340.jpg[/img] i ovaa e KE 811 (Boeing 747-400 Korean Air) ICN (Seoul) - SYD nekade nad Australia [img]http://k.1asphost.com/Zlotty/images/ke811icnsyd.jpg[/img]
concrete [quote]Originally posted by zlotty_co_380
Concentrete and Misirkov ve pozdravuvam so ova, gledam deka i vie ste po avijacijata: [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/Saixlightning/AirlinersNetPhotoID200087.jpg[/img] Sto ti pravi turizam!!!! t.e. biznis !!!!A kontrolorite se istite od Mostar, he,he,he!!!!! Vsusnost i ne e taka strasno, kako zakovan nosac na avioni!!!! Ima mnogu pozaebani aerodromi. Interesno e kako turistive muva ne gi lazi od turbolencijata zad avionot... sto ti e navika!!!!
n/a St. M e super destinacija. Ima golemi nudisticki plazi.[;)] Zatoa patnicite ne primetuvaat turbulencija.
zlotty_co_380 St.Maarten mislam deka e edinstveno mesto vo svetot kade sto se pravat vakvi nenormalni fotki. Odvaj cekam da vidam so A380 kako ke izgleda, sekako dokolku nekoj leta so nego. A za turbolenciite, lujgeto se navikanti najverojatno, mmmmm bas bi sakal eden den da go vidam toa cudo od ostrov, koga bi mozel da imam kujka na tako mesto. A ima i polno nundisticki plazi tamu, kako sto mozes da zabelezis na slikata so Air France Airbus 340-300 , treteata slika, ke ja vidis devojkata e toples. Da pocekame uste nekoj den , izminatiov vikend Airbus A380 gi pravese taxi testovite, a se nadevam deka za ovie dve nedeli ke go napravat i prviot test let, i nemaat problemi so trkalata, taxi testovite bea 100% uspesni.
n/a Ne ti zboram za topless, tuku za vistinski (gooolemi) nudisticki plazi.[:D] Jas pomisliv deka ova se tvoi sliki??? Inaku St. M slovi za mesto kade sto bogatite evropjani odat da se odmaraat. Toa e verojatno najdobroto mesto za odmot na juznite morinja i ima neverojatni zabavi. Ne znam dali kje moze da sleta A380 tamu. [;)] Po se izgleda kje se odi so B-7E7. [:p] [;)]
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Originally posted by Misirkov
Ne ti zboram za topless, tuku za vistinski (gooolemi) nudisticki plazi.[:D] Jas pomisliv deka ova se tvoi sliki??? Inaku St. M slovi za mesto kade sto bogatite evropjani odat da se odmaraat. Toa e verojatno najdobroto mesto za odmot na juznite morinja i ima neverojatni zabavi. Ne znam dali kje moze da sleta A380 tamu. [;)] Po se izgleda kje se odi so B-7E7. [:p] [;)]
Ne, ne , ne se moj slikite, ke odam vo Septemvri ili Oktomvri vo godina tamu. Sega go merkam Hong Kong. A380 ne bi mozel da sleta nekako pistata e mnogu mala nema da go sebere, ama i terminal nemaat dovolno golem vo St. Maarten. Ne e skapo , za evropski standard ne e skapo, no za makedonski standard cenite se mnogu visoki. Sekako B7E7 ke sleta , ke go sobere....mmmm sega me fatu u tesno tuka[:D] nemam komentar, no pak ke recam A380 e podobar od B7E7. Zosto, kako, i ostanatite tipovi na prasanja na: www.airbus.com
OooOo „Хај тек“ ќе прави делови за „ербас 380“ Македонската компанија „Хај тек“ ќе ја снабдува германската компанија „АМ-електроник“ со електронски печатени плочки што ќе се вградуваат во досега најголемиот авион, „ербас 380“. Саво Станковиќ, сопственик на „Хај тек“, изјави дека досега пробно испратиле 230 електронски плочи, а германската компанија најавила дека ќе има потреба за повеќе такви плочки. - Добро е што и македонска компанија учествува во конструкцијата токму на овој авион. Среќни сме што плочите што излегуваат од „Хај тек“ ќе послужат за таа намена. „Ербасот“ е многу квалитетен производ, во чија изработка учествуваат големи компании - вели Станковиќ. „Ербасот“ го изработуваат компании од Франција и од Германија. Тој ќе собира 800 патници, а првиот лет е најавен за јуни годинава. Дестинацијата најверојатно ќе биде од некој град во Европа до Пекинг. А.К.М.
n/a Навистина добро објаснување како работат [url="http://www.rolls-royce.com/education/schools/journey02/flash.html"]моторите[/url] (внатрешна анимација) на Ролс Ројс.
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Навистина добро објаснување како работат [url="http://www.rolls-royce.com/education/schools/journey02/flash.html"]моторите[/url] (внатрешна анимација) на Ролс Ројс.
slusni gi ovie motori :http://www.cowtown.net/proweb/images/b36.wav
n/a Ne se dobiva (barem jas ne mozam)! Denes zapocnuva serisko proizvodstvo na F-22 Raptor. A sega sto pravime?!? Toa so drugi zborovi: TOTAL AIR DOMINANCE![;)] http://www.f22-raptor.com/about/index.html
zlotty_co_380 [img]http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050407/050407_airbus_hmed_12p.hmedium.jpg[/img] Company officials say the latest guess is that the first flight could be between April 14 and April 19, though this could be pushed back to late April or early May. The maiden flight had originally been set for early April." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7421025/
zlotty_co_380 Airbus ima staveno novi sliki od AirbUs A380, ovie se mnogu jaki i mislam najdobrite do sega, samo sporedete go A380 so A340 i ostanatite ke ja vidite razlikata: slikite se dostapni na slednive lnikovi: http://www.airbus.com/MultimediaElements/3425.jpg http://www.airbus.com/MultimediaElements/3420.jpg http://www.airbus.com/MultimediaElements/3427.jpg tuka se pilotite sto ke go "letaat" ova cudo : http://www.airbus.com/MultimediaElements/3416.jpg http://www.airbus.com/MultimediaElements/3419.jpg
n/a Zlotty: dosta sliki i poezija, ajde sega seriozna anaiza! A380 e "zarazen" so tehnicki problemi: konkretno potezok e 5 do 10 toni od propishanata (vetena) tezhina i ima problemi so landing gear. Dali kje se vpustat vo potfat na "nepoznati nepoznati" so 5 toni potezok avion e mn. interesno prasanje. Shodno, kog e najdobro da poletaat: april, maj, juni ili podocna??? Resavanjeto na problemot so tezhinata gi koshta vo namaluvanje na snagata, koe pak go pravi A380 uste poneekonomicen. Ne zaboravaj deka dvomotornite avioni se novata paradigma za efikasnost i ekonomicnost; A380 ima 4 motori! Sekoe kasnenje mu nosi teski zagubi na Airbus. Avionot go pravat vo evra, a padot na dolarot im nosi zagubi. Vekje spomanav deka Airbus e daleku nad budzetot za R&D; go spasuvaat samo dotaciite od vladite na EU (dosega $3+ milijardi od inicijalna investicija od $12 milijardi). Zatoa Boing go tuzhese Airbus vo Svetskata Trgovska Organizacija. Break even point za A380 sega e daleku nad 250 proizvedeni avioni, mozebi 300! Ovaa situacija se odaruzva na cenata na avionot. Iako Airbus dobi 149 narachki, nekoi kompanii se "edgy". Goooolem plus e narackata og Kina za 5 avioni. Dodaten pritisok na zgolemuvanje na cenata na A380 -- koj sto se bori da bide flagship avion -- e neverojatno loshiot priem na avionot A350, za koj ima samo 10 narachki od dekemvri. Uste eden problem: menadzmentot na EADS i Airbus sega e podelen po proektot A380, iako im e jasno deka nema vrakjanje. So sevo pogore kazano - neka im e srekjno i berikjetno, i da dade Gospod da poletaat.
n/a Sto se odnesuva do A350 i pritisokot okolu zgolemuvnje na cenata na A380: so toj takov A350, Airbus saka da gi zamenni relativno uspesnite A330 i A340?!?! A340-200 vekje ne se proizveduva. A340-300 ne se prodava dobro - totalno e "uben" od B-777-200ER i ETOPS bidejkji potrosuvackata na gorivo mu e pogolema, a da ne zborime za troshocite za odrzuvanje. A350-800 e kako A330-200NG A350-900 e kako A330-300NG Samo A350-900 mu konkurira na B777-200ER (odnosno ne mu konkurira). Pozdrav,
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Originally posted by Misirkov
Zlotty: dosta sliki i poezija, ajde sega seriozna anaiza! Uste eden problem: menadzmentot na EADS i Airbus sega e podelen po proektot A380, iako im e jasno deka nema vrakjanje. So sevo pogore kazano - neka im e srekjno i berikjetno, i da dade Gospod da poletaat.
Ova sto go kazuvas navistina me iznenaduva. Zarem e mozno denes na seto iskustvo , moznostite za CAD/FEA/CAM/ so koe raspolagaat da dojdat na 5000 kgr preku merka. Pa toa vo vekot na ekploatacija ke "izede cel" avion samo na gorivo. Znaci "javaslukot" ,kvazi strucnjacite,koj vo klin koj vo ploca i "lako cemo" ne se samo nasi odliki??????Ili mnogu "nasi" se infiltrirale vo programata. Slusam i Savo im isporacuva nekakvi negovi PCB. Kako sto si mislev Michael pojma nema ,mi ostanuva uste Jure , poslednata rabota mu bese za Airbus kako instruktor za preobuka,ako ne ja duvnal veke , baska nase gore list t.e. sekade go brca nosot:):):) Pak jas, od kade ti se informaciive, epten se neverojatni da bi bile vistiniti, kako sto se vika!!!!
n/a Ne ima i vo Boeing - ete Mike Zafirovski e vo Upravniot Odbor kade sto stigna otkako ispushi vo Motorola.[;)] Protekuva po malku info vo javnosta vkl. za problemot so tezinata na A380 i potrosuvackata od nad $2 milijardi nad budzetot. Mislam znaes deka glavnicata na $60 milijardi se troshi na ekonomska shiponaza. Ne mozat tocno da izmerat kolku e potezok 380 otkolku sto treba da bide, no fakt e deka Airbus ima problem so tezhinaa i kasni. Jas malku karikirav so 5 toni za da ja razbijam famata za "double decker dezajnot" i "za avion so barovi, bazeni i kazina" (sto e nonsens od poseben vid koga idejata e da postignat economies of scale), no problemot e golem. Inaku edna godina kasnenje na A380 = $500 milioni profit za Boeing. Mislam deka najbitno vo celava situacija e sto Boeing se razbudi i sega e reshen da si ja povrati pozicijata -- nad 80% od komercijalnite avioni se negovo proizvodstvo. Prehodnive nekolku godini imase realna shansa Boeing da gi batali komercijalnite avioni i da se fokusira samo na voena industrija, vreme koga menadzmentot beshe podelen i imase skandali. Direktorot Stoneceipher, koj se vrati od penzija (no koj sepak e zamanet od CFO Jamess Ball) jasno stavi do znaenje deka uspehot kje se meri so profitabilnosta na kompanijata, a ne so borjot na avionite vo upotreba (kako sto pravi Airbus so svoite proekti dotirani od EU). Toa e edinstveno ispravno. Zatoa nad 30,000 se isterani od rabota, a za razlika od Arbus, vladata nema da prevzeme nikakvi gubitoci vrz sebe. Mislam deka strateijata na Boeing e odlicna: 1 Kreiranje na nov flagship avion, super-ekonomicen i za sekakva upoteba, posebno za klucniot pazar vo Evroazija. Strategijata jasno ukazuva deka ignoriranje na fragmentacijata na pazarot (kako sto pravi Airbus) e ludilo. 2. Imanje vtora brojna familija avioni B-777 na koi kje se osloni i so koi kje go porazi dolgometniot A330/340/350. 3. Cuvanje na opcijata da se modifikuva B-747 vo verzija 600X strech do 400-450 patnici za da mu parira na A380 ako ovoj e uspesen. 4. Vekje e izraboten B-737 vo nekolku pogolemi verzii za da gi pokrie ostanatite dupki na koj Airbus pretendira (a Airbus taka vleze na pazarot po sistem "rak sto se shiri"). 5. Dokolku nesto zakine, zajaknuvanje na prodazba na najbogatiot i najprofitabilniot severoamerikanski pazar. Dokolku ovaa strategija ne ispadne realna, Boeing zasluzuva da propadne.
n/a Ako te interesira nesto pokonkretno, slobodno obrati se na e-mail na VP Randy Baseler. Toj e mnogu pretpazliv, no sepak odgovara. Vidi kako se majtapi so Airbus preku negoviot blog: www.boeing.com/randy Sepak, so 2-motornite avioni se postignuva 5%-10% pomalku operativni troshoci = a toa, medju drugoto, e cenata na usehot: http://www.boeing.com/news/frontiers/archive/2002/september/i_ca1.html Tolku od mene. Pozdrav,
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Originally posted by Misirkov
Ako te interesira nesto pokonkretno, slobodno obrati se na e-mail na VP Randy Baseler. Toj e mnogu pretpazliv, no sepak odgovara. Vidi kako se majtapi so Airbus preku negoviot blog: www.boeing.com/randy Sepak, so 2-motornite avioni se postignuva 5%-10% pomalku operativni troshoci = a toa, medju drugoto, e cenata na usehot: http://www.boeing.com/news/frontiers/archive/2002/september/i_ca1.html Tolku od mene. Pozdrav,
Nekolku dena bev osuten, bev na pat, imas ubavo objasneto okolu toa strategijata na Boeing, se slagam toa deka treba da bide poekonomicen avionot osobeno za prekuokenaski letovi , no sepak treba da se napravi nesto za non-stop da moze da leta, da bide konforno i udobno i kolku sto e mozno pobrzo da se stigne do celta i da prenese kolku moze povejke patnici. B7E7 gi ima skoro site ovie karakteristiki, no negledam nikakva pricnina deka A380 e potezok, se dodeka vo vozduh e stabilen se e vo red, rabotata e deka ke leta posporo od B747, a mislam deka bi nemal nikakvi problmi da se odrzuva vo vozduh. Go napravile poteok, go napravile, se slucuva, znaes kako vikaat "domasen esap na pazar nikogas ne izleguva". A ja isto taka mislam deka A340 rastur sega za sega pravi. Site kompanii naracuvaat od nego. Edinstveno za A380 ke kosta povejke pari za odrzuvanje no od druga strana nema, ke objasnam so eden primer: Qantas leta dnevno 3 pati na relacija Sydney - London (2 pati preku Singapore i ednas preku Bankok). Na taa relacija sto e SYD-LHR via SIN razlikata vo letovite e okolu 45 minuti. za dva B747 ke se potrosat povejke pari za odrzuvanje i gorivo i aerodromski taxi nego za eden A380 koj ke prenese skoro isto broj na patnici so eden avion, zosto da se plajka dva pati koga moze so eden let da se napravi istoto. Jas mislam ovoj A380 ke go kupat "golemite" kompanii koj sto letaat dnevno povejke pati na edna ista relacija. na toj nacin tie ke zastedat pari, a mozebi i nema da zastedat pari no ke bide potrosat potpolno isto kolku sto ke letaat nekolku pati vo denot.
n/a Nekoj izgleda se sprema da leta???[;)] http://photos.airliners.net/photos/7/1/5/813517.jpg
n/a Zlotty: samo pazarot kje odredi sto kje bide. No interesno e da se spekulira, spored ona sto go znaeme denes, dali ti se tocni konstataciite. Da ne ispadnam dosaden, da objasnam uste ednas: - Postoi fragmentacija na pazarot vo site delovi na svetot. A Boing mora da se rakovodi spored pobaruvackata na pazarot, ne spored politicki direktivi da se unisti konkurencijata po sekoja cena. Analizite na pobaruvackata se nedvosmisleni deka OPTIMALNIOT nacin na letanje e so sredni, shirokotrupni dvomotorni avioni so pogolem domet. Smetkata e: povekje letovi so polni avioni e dosta poekonomicno da se letaat otkolku da se pravi pogolem avion za koj ne sekogas e izvesno deka kje e poln. Vo ovoj biznis, marginite za profit se se medju 10% i 20%. Operativnite troshoci medju 5% i 9%. I B-777 i B787 Dreamliner se na ili gi nadfrlaat marginite. Shodno Airbus privatno priznava deka B787 Dreamliner e eden "prst" pred A380; Boing veli "entire length". - Denes, spored poslednite podatoci A380 e 4 metricki toni potezok vo vreme koga treba da izvrshi proben let. Kupuvacite se ednoglasni deka nema promena na prvobitnite specifikacii. Za toa Airbus kje plakja "globa". Inaku eden ton = 12 patnici pomalku vo prosek ako se zeme eden patnik da e tezhok 175 funti + bagazh. Znaci A380 kje leta so 50tina patnici pomalku. Toa prevedeno na nashki e golema zaguba. Za da nadoknaduva gubitok vo ekonomicnost, Airbus kje mora da prevezuva sto e mozno pogolem broj patnici. Kazi mi koj denes saka da leta vo crammed airplane so 650-850 patnici na dolgi relacii??? - Ne e samo tezinata vo prasanje, tuku i operativnite troshoci. Za da se proshirat aerodromite za A380, mora da ima "constant demand" za letovi so polni avioni. Denes, retko koja kompanija (vkl. gi i tie sto gi spomena) moze da mu garantira na aerodromot za da mu bidat isplatlivi troshocite za proshiruvanje na aerodromskite zgradi i pistite. - Airus vlozi 70% od svojata zarabotuvacka (revenues) vo proektot A380 (koj pretstavuva 26% od profitot vo celata avionska industrija) i tamu se iscelo nasoceni. Znaci prevzemaa golem rizik. Zatoa ne mozat da se posvetat na drugi avioni. Nivniot odgovor na B-777 i B-787 bese navrat-nanos proizvedeniot A350 koj e zasega totalna utka (A350 e zgolemena verzija na A330). A so A350, t.e. so eden udar sakaa da gi zamenat A330 i A340. Vistinata e deka A330 i A340 ne mozat da mu konkuriraat po ekonomicnost na noviot B-777 Long Range vo negovite tri verzii. A da se navratam za vaznosta na fragmentacijata na pazarot: po prvobitniot uspeh na Airbus so A340, najprodavani avioni denes se B-737-800 i B-737-900 upravo zaradi nivnite goreopisani karakteristiki na optimalnost na koristenje! Sevo kazano ne mora da znaci deka nekoj kje prevagne vo vojnata, tuku deka moze da ima DUOPOLY za dogledno vreme.
zlotty_co_380 [img]http://www.airbus.com/a380/seeing/teasing/Intro_colleft.aspx[/img]
The_Crow Deneska ili utre ne uspeav dovolno da procitam ke go ima sefteto od aerodromot vo tuluz-francija ako bide pogodno vremeto i ke letal nad atlantikot ke vidime kako ke se pokaze
n/a Ер Канада вчера купи Боинзи во вредност од 5 милијарди долари.
zlotty_co_380 Prviot let na AIRBUS A380 vo zivo na http://www.airbus.com/A380/Seeing/live/video/live.asx
zlotty_co_380 letnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
dada Sani Wow..ova bese so ili bez patnici?:)
zlotty_co_380 bez patnici e sekako, seuste kruzi nad Francija i se upatuva kon atlantikot vo momentov
zlotty_co_380 A be concrete i tebe izgleda site te razbiraat so jazkov sto sakas da kazes, zatoa vo izminative 3-4 dena nikoj ne se pobunil, se e jasno ko den, no gledam deka i ti mnogu dobro go vladees ova jazikov "avionski". Inaku sega samo sto si dojdov od rabota go imav QF032 i nenormalno nevreme imase nad Indonesia, takvi turbolencii u zivot sum nemal oseteneo , a izgleda i ovdeka u gradov imalo silno nevreme , ce kazat sega na vesti sto se dogodilo so vremevo, nekako mi e mnogu promneneto.... pazi go ova: na 09.05.2005 AC008 so Airbus A340-300 iaml emergency landing od HKK-YVR na 025R i posle celiot soobrajkj bil prenasocen na 07R, inaku kako sto kazaa izbuvnall cad od control desk. Za srejka se se odigralo bez problem, po nekolku casa proverki letot bil pusten nazad za YVR.
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Originally posted by concrete Preferred IFR arrival routes will be in effect May17, 2005 through May 20, 2005. Aircraft departing Charlotte, NC (CLT) and Concord, NC (JQF) can expect the following routing into 4A7: CAE..IRQ..BEYLO..CANUK..4A7 Aircraft departing Salisbury, NC (RUQ), Greensboro, NC (GSO), Winston Salem, NC (INT), Lexington, NC (EXX), Martinsville (MTV), or Statesville, NC (SVH) can expect the following routing into 4A7: BZM..SUG.V20.MADDI..4A7 ..................itn.itn!!!!!!!!
concrete Razbrano ...kapetane , ne znaev deka ovde vrie od piloti :):):)!!!!! A jas baska sum samo do nivoto na PPL, a i po znaenje kako onoj selanec sto napravil dzumbus nad Washington, DC :):):)!!!!!
zlotty_co_380
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Originally posted by concrete
Razbrano ...kapetane , ne znaev deka ovde vrie od piloti :):):)!!!!! A jas baska sum samo do nivoto na PPL, a i po znaenje kako onoj selanec sto napravil dzumbus nad Washington, DC :):):)!!!!!
Ne ne sum pilot, ama sakav da bidam , ama srejken sum i toa sto go rabotam, eve vaka utre me ocekuva rabotniot den. Interesna profesija. Ladies and Gentlemen’s welcome on the board, this is the flight number QF 0001, on board Qanats Airways , Boeing 747-400, from Sydney to London via Bankog, the total flight will be around 22:30 min to London, and to Bankong 09:15 min. The current time is 16:50 min and current temperature is 21 degrees, We will flight on an approximate altitude on 11000 m , during the flight we expecting turbulences , we hope that we will do not have any problems. Please switch off your mobile devices and all walkmans, cd players, laptops, and all devices what use batteries during the take off process. On the board there are 430 passengers and 17 people from the cabin crew., after my speech please listen and watch the procedure for emergency problems which will be demonstrated right now. My name is Zlotty – Co and I wish you to have a nice flight and enjoy in the best flight entertainment system . ----- The procedure is demonstrating ----- Ding dong, ding dong, Good Afternoon ladies and gentlemen’s the captain speaking (nezam utre koj ke e na smena ) , please relax, for les then 1 minute we will be in the air. After 10 seconds….. Ding - dong, ding - dong, (again the captain) . Can I have the cabin crew for take off position please, pocnuva da se dvizii I vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv letnuva.
melpomena
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Onie sto se vo Boing sepak mi kazuvaat deka A380 im e nokna mora!!!!
Northwest Airlines kupuva prvo 18 a potoa uste 50 B787: http://www.nwa.com/corpinfo/newsc/2005/pr050520051588.html Isto taka Central European Airlines http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/cst-fin-boeing11.html Pa sega neznam koj na kogo mu e nokjna mo0ra koga Boeing go drzhi celiot pazar na dalechniot istok.[;)]
zlotty_co_380 Do nekade se soglasum so vas so mislenjata, no ke vidime , vremete ke go pokaze svojeto, za check in tetki-te tie poleka i poleka isceznuvaat, "glupavite" kompijuteri sega cela rabota ja vrsat, pa posle normalno ke ima mnogu nevraboteni, nemozam da svatam zosto ja usovrsuvaat tolu mnogu taa tehnologija, nema potreba od e-checking, toa e napraveno samo nekoj pari da sobira vo dzebot za da ne mu se plati na lujgeto, kako na primer vo NRT (Tokyo) luge ke vidis samo na carina t.e . immigartion , cela rabota e na kompijyetrite ostavena , isto e i vo HKK (Hong Kong ), nito ne e poarno vo ICN (Incheon - Seoul), ovie tri grada od azija vejke od damna pocnaa da go upotrebuvaat e-cheking , i avstarlia zapocna da go voveduva za na domestic raboti bes problem, pred izvesno vreme toj sistem go stavija i na international terminal , YYR (Voncuver) isto taka pocnuva da go upotrebuva, jfk ke go imam na 17 ovoj mesec i ke vidam kolku go izmenile, ednas mesecno mi se pajga, ama aerodromot rastur pravi, koj znae dali ke go nadmine hkk , mislam chikago i jfk se najzafateni aerodromi od usa. A380 ke ide na jfk, no koj znae dali ke go koristat za kargo, jas kako sto imam soznanija za SQ tie letaat 3 pati dnevno na relacija sin-syd , so b747 toa se oklu 2100 patnici, ako pocnat da letaa so a380 ke imaat samo dva leta ede so a380 i drugiot so b747 , letot sto mu e na pladne toj mu ide vo propast, bidejki ste sto patuvaat za evropa so sq ili koja druga kompanija bez razlika dali preku sin, bkk, hkk ili nrt mora da cekaat da dojde polnok zosto site letovi se okolu polnojk za evropa. taka da tie ke imaat profit na taa relacija. isto taka sin - jfk momnetalno letaat so a340-500 , avionot postojano e poln, i toa 2 pati dnevno imaat sin-jfk eden e non stop a drugiot e sin-fra-jfk so b747. Bez razlika , kako i da e , za site sto go naracaa site si imaat napraveno matematika dali mu se isplati ili ne da go kupat, a cim gi kupuvaat znaci imaat napraveno matematika deka ke imaat profit.
zlotty_co_380
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Originally posted by concrete
Za pojasnuvanje na nejasniot jazik na zloti :http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/airport_code_list.htm mislam za pacerive kako mene , sto verojatno gi ima ovde prilicno :):):)!!!! Ili Makedoncive po vokacija, onaka razbacani po svet toa go znaat uste so raganje :):):)!!!!!!
Ok, jas se izvinuvam ama mislam deka site razbiraat so kratenki sto znaci , bidejki nikoj ne se buni ili ako nekoj nerazbraat sto znacat kratenkite, da pojasnam . QF - Qanats Airways BA - British Airways JL - Japan Airlines KE - Korean Air EK - Emirates SQ - Singapre Airlines MH - Malaysia Airlines TG - Thay Airlines LH - Lufthansa LX - Swiss Airlines NZ - Air New Zealnd CX - Cathay Pacific AF - Air France AA - American Airlines UA - United Airlines a za gradovite mislam deka se razbira SYD - Sydney NRT - Tokyo YYR - Vancuver ZRH - Zurich FCO - Rome FRA - Frankfurt CDG - Paris LHR - London LGW - London - Getwick HKK - Hong Kong ICN - Seoul or Incheon BKK - Bankog SIN - Singapore DBX - Dubai AMS - Amsterdam LAX - Los Angelos JFK - New York YYZ - Toronto VIE - Vienna I najnova vest, malce nadvor od temeva, denes patnicki avion od tipot na ferchajld se urna vo Avstarlia vo Kvinsland, i zaginati se site petnaeset patnici so se ekipazot (dvajca piloti).
concrete
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Originally posted by zlotty_co_380
[quote]Originally posted by concrete I najnova vest, malce nadvor od temava, denes patnicki avion od tipot na ferchajld se urna vo Avstarlia vo Kvinsland, i zaginati se site petnaeset patnici so se ekipazot (dvajca piloti).
Saab-Fairchild 340??????? Do sega ne sum slusnal nekoj da se urne, a veke teraat 25 godina.... ......a ona za kratenkite se poseguvav, kako da citav nekoj NOTAM , he,he,he... t.e: Preferred IFR arrival routes will be in effect May17, 2005 through May 20, 2005. Aircraft departing Charlotte, NC (CLT) and Concord, NC (JQF) can expect the following routing into 4A7: CAE..IRQ..BEYLO..CANUK..4A7 Aircraft departing Salisbury, NC (RUQ), Greensboro, NC (GSO), Winston Salem, NC (INT), Lexington, NC (EXX), Martinsville (MTV), or Statesville, NC (SVH) can expect the following routing into 4A7: BZM..SUG.V20.MADDI..4A7 ..................itn.itn!!!!!!!!
achtung_panzer
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Originally posted by Misirkov
Zlotty: samo pazarot kje odredi sto kje bide. No interesno e da se spekulira, spored ona sto go znaeme denes, dali ti se tocni konstataciite. Da ne ispadnam dosaden, da objasnam uste ednas: - Postoi fragmentacija na pazarot vo site delovi na svetot. A Boing mora da se rakovodi spored pobaruvackata na pazarot, ne spored politicki direktivi da se unisti konkurencijata po sekoja cena. Analizite na pobaruvackata se nedvosmisleni deka OPTIMALNIOT nacin na letanje e so sredni, shirokotrupni dvomotorni avioni so pogolem domet. Smetkata e: povekje letovi so polni avioni e dosta poekonomicno da se letaat otkolku da se pravi pogolem avion za koj ne sekogas e izvesno deka kje e poln. Vo ovoj biznis, marginite za profit se se medju 10% i 20%. Operativnite troshoci medju 5% i 9%. I B-777 i B787 Dreamliner se na ili gi nadfrlaat marginite. Shodno Airbus privatno priznava deka B787 Dreamliner e eden "prst" pred A380; Boing veli "entire length".
Tokmu od tie prichini shtedlivite kanadjani se reshavaat za Boeing namesto Airbus: [url]http://news.ft.com/cms/s/670ee268-b5ef-11d9-be59-00000e2511c8.html[/url]
n/a Епа ај ОооОо да ни каже шо впечатоци имаше тој денес, го видов на почесната ВИП листа, не знам дали отишол.
OooOo Super beshe ... nemam zborovi! 4 nezaboravni saati! Superduper Jumbo Airbus 380's Flight Begins New Aviation Era by Joe Gandelman Today a monster commercial aircraft, operating with a small initial crew, successfully completed its a highly touted and covered test run — thus opening a new era for travelers under the assumption that "bigger is better." The aircraft that took off from France's Toulouse Blagnac airport was Airbus' new ton Airbus A380, a double-decker airplane-of-the-future-that-is-now that can carry some 800 passengers. Think of all the passengers, stale pretzels and lost luggage that that'll entail. But, in the end, it's also going to entail even more: it'll require modifications in European airports and a seeming end to Boeing being the manufacturer offering the biggest viable commercial aircraft in the skies. Earthtimes.org gives this summary of the highly-touted and covered event: At precisely 10.29 a.m. the Airbus A380 left the ground and climbed steadily in the clear skies. Thousands of people, which included aviation enthusiasts, watched from cordoned off areas and cheered as the plane weighing 421 tons took off. Thousands more watched from the city center, where a giant television screen in the main square showed the plane’s ascent live. 500 police officers were pressed into service to control the crowds. It was after all the ‘biggest’ event in the history of aviation, since the first flight of the supersonic Concorde in 1969.
n/a Мислам дека и ти им го одобри кредитот на Ер Канада да ги купи боинзите...или се лажам? Edit: Луѓе само шо добив најнови слики од Лос Анѓелос каде на ОооОо Ер Канада му презентирала свечен ручек по повод кредитот кој им го одобрил на рок на исплата од 20 години.А еве и поклонот кој го добил: [IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y193/Haribda/limo1.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y193/Haribda/limo2.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y193/Haribda/limo3.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y193/Haribda/limo4.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y193/Haribda/limo5.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y193/Haribda/limo66.jpg[/IMG]
zlotty_co_380 THE SKY IS YOURS MY BROTHER.....have a nice flight all the time in any place in the world, I am waiting for u to come in Kingsford, see u soon in July 2006. [img]http://k.1asphost.com/Zlotty/airbus/a380first.jpg[/img] [img]http://k.1asphost.com/Zlotty/airbus/a380_02.jpg[/img] [img]http://k.1asphost.com/Zlotty/airbus/a380_03.jpg[/img]
concrete Mnogu e golem navistina. Verojatno gi inkorporirale site iskustva na Rusite i Amerikancite so slicni kategorii avioni. I ednite i drugite na vakvite strukturi imaat den denesen problemi, postojani modifikacii i neprimerna kontrola. Ne gi znam detalite za koristenite materijali. Inaku avionot pristojno se odnesuvase, iako bese vidlivo deka go letaat kako na jajca.
zlotty_co_380
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Mnogu e golem navistina. Verojatno gi inkorporirale site iskustva na Rusite i Amerikancite so slicni kategorii avioni. I ednite i drugite na vakvite strukturi imaat den denesen problemi, postojani modifikacii i neprimerna kontrola. Ne gi znam detalite za koristenite materijali. Inaku avionot pristojno se odnesuvase, iako bese vidlivo deka go letaat kako na jajca.
A be kako sakas kazi ama da znaes deka ke pravi "lom" po svetov, za goelm e golem, da leta znae da leta se poakza, nezanm sto ti znaci toa sto vikas go "letaat kako na jajca". Sekako Boeing se plasi od Airbus zaradi konkurencijata, no veruvaj Airbus e Airbus, i jas sum za Boeing , dolgo vreme rabotam so niv, osobeno so B747, najmnogu ke mi nedostiga b747 koga ke gi penzioniraat ama toa e toa, doajga nova generacija na letanje i morame site da ja prifatime takva kakva sto je, ne mozime da ja smenime. Aj sega zaminuvam za nekolu saati za NRT i se slusame vtornik. Pozdrav....
concrete
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Originally posted by OooOo
Ja u podrum si chuvam eden Tupoljev u sluchaj da zatreba
So akcent na TUP(oljev) predmet???????
zlotty_co_380
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A be kako sakas kazi ama da znaes deka ke pravi "lom" po svetov, za goelm e golem, da leta znae da leta se poakza, nezanm sto ti znaci toa sto vikas go "letaat kako na jajca". Sekako Boeing se plasi od Airbus zaradi konkurencijata
Тебе те импресионира што е голем? Па и Антонов беше голем (Не многу помал од Ербас) еве ги димензиите на двата: A380-800 Wing span:79.8m, length 73m, height 24,1m, speed 880km/h An-225 Wing span:88.4m, lenght 84m, height 18,1m, speed 800km/h Не знам шо толку се возбудвиш за овој авион кога за некоја година ќе нема примена, на 3-4 аеродроми во светот ќе биде актуелен и толку. Мирја истото го снајде, премногу пари кошта да се лета, нема примена само за некои огромни работи, шатлови или слично, Конкордот беше чудо, тргнуваш на пладне од Париз во понеделник стигнуваш Њу Јорк на работа на сабајле... Верувам со овој проект Ербас или ќе го повлече или ќе пропадне.
Sapeski vo greska si, Airbus nema da go povlecat od upotreba ovoj avion , a vejke i kompanijata imam povejke od 145 naracki za A380,sto znaci deka site se zaenteresirani za negova upotreba, povejketo svetski kompanii go naracaa, ne sum siguren za AA i UA , ama ostanatite (pogolemite ) evropski kako LX,LH,BA,AF, i svetski poznatite EK,QF,SQ,CX,KE,JL,NZ,MH i drugi gi dostavija prvite naracki , jas neveruvam deka ke leta za amerika poradi dobro poznatite prizini, no na nekoj mesta vo amerika da, ma ne vo site golemi metropli, dodeka na istocnava hemisvera (Australasia and oceania i europe) sekade ke go sobira site aerodromi se dobro podeseni i na dobra mestopolzba , najinteresno e sto aerodromot vo Hong Kong iako se naojga vo centarot na gradot ima kapacitet da go primi. A HKK (Chek Lap Kok International (HKG / VHHH))koj bil tamu na aerodrom, tranzit ili kako bilo sigurno znae deka e najoptereten aerodorm vo svetot i najtesko e spustanjeto nego poletuvanjeto, bidejki spustanjeto se odviva preku 16R , 35L ili 9R, a ponego sledi LHR od evropa , poranesniot aerodrom koj momentalno e zatvoren za soobrajkaj (Kai Tak International (HKG / VHHH)) bese najopasen za sletuvane a najdobroto e sto nikogas se nemase sluceno akcident, i avionite koga sletuvaa bukvalno se dvizea megu zgradite. I sega ne e nisto poarno ama na podobra lokacija e malce noviov. A 380 bez problem moze da sleta na koj bilo od tie pisti, a cim moze tamu togas moze sekade na koje bilo mesto, sekako deka pistata treba da e podolga od 3,2km. NA relacija pomegu europe i amerika ne veruvam deka ke leta , bidejki i momentalno site kompanii letaat so Boeing 777 ili 767 , mnogu retko go koristat B747, a B747 i A380 se namenete za dolgi relacii za preku 10 casa let.
zlotty_co_380 OooOo slusam si daval kerditi za avikompanii , daj nekoj milijon kredit za 4 Boeing 747 ako ne ti e tesko [:D]
concrete Zloti ne gi plasi forumdziive ovde so kratenkive, ke gi sasardisas.... Inaku conzorciumot Airbus ne e Makedonska vlada pa da gleda vo gravce ili da konsultira shamani pri donesuvanje na delovni odluki. Pominalo odamna vremeto koga nekoj "glaven" ke gledal vo tavan pa ke mu dojdela idea za avion. I Ruskite i Amerikanskite dzinovski avioni imaat tehnicki problemi , najmnogu so strukturata na ramenjacite krilata, ama toa se vojni proekti pritisnati od drugi sistemi , rokovi i pricini za postoenje, pa mozni se posle nebroeni modifikacii za da se popravat kolku tolku greskite. Za A380 ne veruvam i tie sto go pravat i korisnicite koi se vo proektot od pocetokot , rekov veke , ne se nekoi lokalni guru prognozeri. No se e mozno , nikoj ne e kako vremeto. Toa ke pokaze.
melpomena Izgleda deka Airbus svakja deka pazarot za A380 e mnogu pomal otkolku sto se nadevaa. Imaat 154 narachki do sega, a im trebaat okolu 300 za da bidat profitabilni. B787 koj ne ni pocnal da se proizveduva ima okolu 200 ushte vo startot. Pokraj Air Canada, Air India celosno se resi da kupi B787 i B777 vo vrednost od nekolku milijardi dolari. Jasno e deka ekonomicnosta na 2-motornite sredni avioni go vodi pazarot napred. A za luke-warn priem na Airbus, vidi nekoi komentari na BBC pred nekolku dena: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/4489137.stm
AaaAa Mozda se ceka da se vidi efikasnosta, i prakticnosta. Aerodromi treba da se renoviraat za Airbusot, pred nekoj mesec ko sletav na JFK celiot bese izboldeziran od ednata strana, go spremaa za da moze Airbusot da sleta--ne samo so avionot treba da go kupish nego i rekonstrucija da praish na aerodrom. eden sletuva 800 patnici iskacaat, zamisli 5 u isto vreme, pa kolku samo check-in tetki treba da ima na rabota u isto vreme. Nekoj mi rece patnici ke bidat isto ko 2 boinga da sletaat, da ama ne izleguvaat 800 lugje u isto vreme. Da gi prevzemesh od avion do gate, samo kolku pati avtobusceto treba da zavrti. Mnogu koordinacija ke treba da se menuva, a ne se lugjeto prikloni kon promeni. Jas mislam deka ako se pokaze efikasen postepeno se poise ke go letaat. Jas ne se razbiram vo avioni, ama sekogash sum presrekjna ko ke sednam vo Airbus, abre noze ima kaj da stavam;)))
melpomena Zlotty, kolku sto citam na BBC, nema da go povlecat od upotreba (ne ni smeat da priznaat) no izgleda kje bide dobar transporten avion. AaaAa,vo toa se sostoi problemot na Airbus: operativnite trosoci se ogromni i za izmeni na aerodromite,a kompaniite me mozat da garantiraat polni avioni + 4 motori i trosok na gorivo. Vo novite verzii ima povekje mesto (i dr. pogodnosti), taka pisuva na sajtot na Boing.
concrete Navistina ne me interesiraat vakvite avioni , ama cela generacija mi e po svet vo industrijata, a jas sum drustven covek:):):!!! Onie sto se vo Boing sepak mi kazuvaat deka A380 im e nokna mora!!!!I celata prikazna narecena Airbus....demek drzavno subvencionirana , toa amerikanskite kompanii siroti siracinja :):):) posebno Lockheed i Boing, :):)!!! Za nekolku godini ke se menuva celata filozofija na eksplatacijata ,AaaAa, check-in tetki-te ke isceznat prvi...:):)!!
concrete Za pojasnuvanje na nejasniot jazik na zloti :http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/airport_code_list.htm mislam za pacerive kako mene , sto verojatno gi ima ovde prilicno :):):)!!!! Ili Makedoncive po vokacija, onaka razbacani po svet toa go znaat uste so raganje :):):)!!!!!!
concrete Zlotty uste li si so niet kompanija da pravis...... ovie me udavija , samo mi nudkaat avioni: Dear Sir, We are glad to offer aircraft L1011-500 and L1011-100 on ACMI basis or for Charter flights, -Fraction lease on ACMI basis. -Full Charter or regular services. -Air Taxi operations Hajj, Umra, VIP, evacutions flights. -United Nations, Government, diplomatic support, & military troops movement. -Leisure & Tourism. -Humanitarian & disaster relief. TYPE A/C RANGE CAPACITY CARGO L-1011-100 7 HOURS 362 ALL Y 10 TONS L-1011-500 12 HOURS 291 ALL Y 20 TONS L-1011-500 12 HOURS 21F,39B & 189 Y 20 TONS _______________________________________________ TYPE A/C FUEL CONSUMPTION L-1011-100 7.5 TONS L-1011-500 7.5 TONS L-1011-500 7.5 TONS ___________________ Best regards Aviation Services Germany
zlotty_co_380 Concrete dobar avion e, aj da go zememe i ke letame dnevno samo za Skopje-Zurich-Skopje, dobra investicija ke bide veruvaj mi, cena 50Euro , povratna karta da mu stavime i se ke se isplati, sto velis na toa. Toa sto vikas deka ptica e, bes ja gledav originalot slika i ne e ptica, avion e , e sega mozebi i nekoje nlo da zaletalo toa vreme, ama avion e, site sto poletuvaat od taa strana taka se gledaat. Ke ti pratam utre-zadutre isti akvi i ke vidis deka e avion
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Onie sto se vo Boing sepak mi kazuvaat deka A380 im e nokna mora!!!!
Northwest Airlines kupuva prvo 18 a potoa uste 50 B787: http://www.nwa.com/corpinfo/newsc/2005/pr050520051588.html Isto taka Central European Airlines http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/cst-fin-boeing11.html Pa sega neznam koj na kogo mu e nokjna mo0ra koga Boeing go drzhi celiot pazar na dalechniot istok.[;)]
A be sea , sto znam , jas ne gledam vo gravce :):):):) Samo si pravam muabeti so stari drugari, a po iskustvo znam deka onie koi sedat na ringla, se najmerodavni za procenka kolku e zeska istata :):):)!!!!
ProMKD Site vikaat deka aerodromite ne se momentalno sposobni da gi hostiraat ovie novite Airbus A-380, ama sum slusal deka najgolemiot Ruski transporten avion vo nivnata Armija, Antonov sleta vo Skopje bez problem. Toj vikaat deka bil i pogolem od ovoj airbus. Izgleda ne bil tolku tovaren?
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Site vikaat deka aerodromite ne se momentalno sposobni da gi hostiraat ovie novite Airbus A-380, ama sum slusal deka najgolemiot Ruski transporten avion vo nivnata Armija, Antonov sleta vo Skopje bez problem. Toj vikaat deka bil i pogolem od ovoj airbus. Izgleda ne bil tolku tovaren?
Moslam deka problemot koj se potencira ne e vo fizickata sposobnost pistite da prifatat avion so tie dimenzii, tuku brojot na patnici koi ke navalat odednas i moznosta da se propustat bez da se stvori haos.
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Originally posted by ProMKD
Site vikaat deka aerodromite ne se momentalno sposobni da gi hostiraat ovie novite Airbus A-380, ama sum slusal deka najgolemiot Ruski transporten avion vo nivnata Armija, Antonov sleta vo Skopje bez problem. Toj vikaat deka bil i pogolem od ovoj airbus. Izgleda ne bil tolku tovaren?
Moslam deka problemot koj se potencira ne e vo fizickata sposobnost pistite da prifatat avion so tie dimenzii, tuku brojot na patnici koi ke navalat odednas i moznosta da se propustat bez da se stvori haos.
A380 ke moze da sleta i vo Skopje i na polno mesta, no mu treba dovono dolga pista za da poleta, sletuvanjeto najmalce e problem i site znaete deka po sletuvanje odma site kocat, a za poletuvanje treba sila i dovolno dolga pista. No kako sto kaza concrete deka problem ke bide so vleguvanje i zleguvanje na patnicite, toa e kako dva boeing 747 vo eden avion , sto ke se sluci ako dojdat 3 ili povejke A380 ke stane haos. Neznam sto planiraat drugite kompanii no povejketo imaat i naracano povejke od 10 kako sto e so QF i EK, no zosto nikoj ne kazuvaat kako ke gi odrzuvaat i za kade ke letaat, ili seto toa ke ispadne "propala investicija", a mnogu malce aerodromi vo svetot moze da go zemat na terminal. NAjdobrite 10 Aerodromi vo svetot moze da go zemat, site se ok so terminalite, no nema nieden grad od usa na listata , neznam zosto. na sledniov link top 10 aerodromi http://money.cnn.com/2005/05/12/pf/goodlife/airports/ Svaka mu cast na Hong Kong , Incheon i Singapore, sopred mene ako jas ja pravev ovaa selekcija jas bi glasal vaka: Incheon ICN (Seoul - South Korea) bi go stavil na prvo mesto, takov aerodrom tesko se opisuva, nemam zborovi, na vtoro mesto Hong Kong (HKK ), pa Singapore (SIN) na treto mesto.
concrete verojatno imat nekoja biznis logika Zlotty, a taa sigurno ne e istata so onaa koja e vo funkcija , evolutivno skoro 70-80 godini. Se trkalaat nekoi promeni i za edno 10 godini nema da go prepoznaes environment-ot vo koj sega funkcioniras. A380 e samo edna (pogolemka!!!!) kocka vo mozaikot.
zlotty_co_380 Jas mislam deka nemaat logika tuku deka site sega se "jadat" megu sebe, naracuvaat A380 da se "dujat" pred drugite so ona eee vidi nie imame A380 a vie nemate, a ustvari ke ispaden site da si go cuvaat za "ukras" ili samo ke go letaat ednas vo denot megu 3-4 grada. Kojznae kako ke izgleda svetot posle 10 godini concrete, bidejki sekoj den e se nekako drug, i se nekako cuden tehnologiski, ovoj digitalen svet ne e zivot, be sto saka neka pravat ne A380 ne A390 ne B787 ili sto bilo, najbito e koga ke tregne da te odnese do tamu kade sto treba , i porano se patuvalo od London do Sydney i po 36-40 casa, so tek na vreme se namaluva , den denes e 22.30 saati, pred nekoe vreme citav na internet deka pravele testovi so nekoj voen avion i bil pobrz od zvukot i deka od London do Sydney go pominal za 2 casa, e sto bi se slucelo koag tie motori ke gi zakacat na patnicki avion, dali ke nastapi nov den vo avijacijata ili nov den vo sosema nesto novo kako toj glupav "digitalen" svet. i znaes sto , Boeing gi kupuva avionite od AC Air Canada A340 i A330 i ke mu gi zameni so B787 i slicni. Airbus izgleda gubi vo industrijata.
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aeeeeee ova mozhe i u Bitola da sleta a? Neli Bitola nema aerodrom, ama go ima Dragor :)
Kako be Bitola nema aerodrom . Ima duri i eden bivsi kaj Sveta Nedela posle Monopolot...tamu nauciv da letam na vitlo pred milion godini. Sega e nakaj termocentralite..samo pistata e povodnikava..posleden pat sum go videl pred edno 15-16 godini :):):)!!!! Ama se leta...vo kontakt sum so prijatelite!!!! Inaku sega na strana preprocitaj gi sporedbite so B747!!!! ps. ednas na ovaa tema ,aerodrom Bitola,se zezav so Divider...kade iscezna toa momce??? Isto onoj so slemot Bicho ili taka nesto????
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Jas mislam deka nemaat logika tuku deka site sega se "jadat" megu sebe, naracuvaat A380 da se "dujat" pred drugite so ona eee vidi nie imame A380 a vie nemate, a ustvari ke ispaden site da si go cuvaat za "ukras" ili samo ke go letaat ednas vo denot megu 3-4 grada. Kojznae kako ke izgleda svetot posle 10 godini concrete, bidejki sekoj den e se nekako drug, i se nekako cuden tehnologiski, ovoj digitalen svet ne e zivot, be sto saka neka pravat ne A380 ne A390 ne B787 ili sto bilo, najbito e koga ke tregne da te odnese do tamu kade sto treba , i porano se patuvalo od London do Sydney i po 36-40 casa, so tek na vreme se namaluva , den denes e 22.30 saati, pred nekoe vreme citav na internet deka pravele testovi so nekoj voen avion i bil pobrz od zvukot i deka od London do Sydney go pominal za 2 casa, e sto bi se slucelo koag tie motori ke gi zakacat na patnicki avion, dali ke nastapi nov den vo avijacijata ili nov den vo sosema nesto novo kako toj glupav "digitalen" svet. i znaes sto , Boeing gi kupuva avionite od AC Air Canada A340 i A330 i ke mu gi zameni so B787 i slicni. Airbus izgleda gubi vo industrijata.
Vidi planetava ima ograniceni resursi,na primer kislorodot veke od 1964 go podjaduvame. Verojatno ke se odi samo na pekuokeanski destinaci so nesto kako A380 airframes , a za motorite ima uste mnogu teoretski moznosti za podobruvanje. Se ovekuva vo kontinentalna Evropa ,superbrzata zeleznica da go prezeme transportot. B787 e skoro celiot od kompoziti, [img]http://www.compositesworld.com/sections/hpc/issues/2005/May/865-a.gif[/img]plavoto se kompoziti zatoa e i tolkav, nema za sega tehnologija za pogolem , inaku i amerikancite vednas bi napravile nesto na nivo 1000 patnika. Ti si pomlad , ama vakvi muabeti i uste ponedoverlivi se pravea koga se pojavi 747 , sega barem mentalno sme spremni na takvi velicini. Inaku smetajki go Re brojot samo takvi dzinovi na razumni podvuzcni brzini mozat da isteraat neverojatna ekonomicnost , sporedeno so 707 koj bese alfa i omega koga jas bev klinec, a toa vo nekoe istorisko vreme e vcera. Neznam moze bladam , ama za edno 10 godini toj svet nema da bide prepoznatliv. Megu drugoto i Holandezi ke go naseluvaat Mariovo :):):):)!!!! Inaku toa sto Boeing im gi kupuva staro zanovo Airbusite i ne e nekoja fora na uspeh,poveke mi mirisa na nesto drugo. Ednas Amerikancite ja ubija Caravellata , zosto im gi pomrsi site konci , ne veruvam Evropjanive da ne ja naucija lekcijata. Ili koj ti go znae......kako sto go citira AaaAa , Ajnstajna : samo covekovata glupavost e beskrajna!!!!! PS ne ja zaboravaj Kina,Indija i okolina, eden moj star drugar od letacki denovi ne izleguva od kabina , inaku e nastavnik za probuka na Airbus bas vo tie predeli.....centarot na svetot Evropa ne e odamna , Amerika temnee, se sekavas kade bese izgrejsonceto????? Inaku vo vozduhoplovnata industrija site gubat... ako ne se danocnite obvrznici da gi popolnuvaat dupkite:):):)!!!!!
OooOo Sho avion e ova koga chovek nemozhe prozor da otvori za da 'rkne od visina na preku okeanski let.
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Sho avion e ova koga chovek nemozhe prozor da otvori za da 'rkne od visina na preku okeanski let.
Bravo be OooOo , moj covek...otidi na http://home.att.net/~dannysoar/BelGeddes.htm da vidis super priod na problemot...koga samo bi se nasol nekoj zapalenko kako Sir Richard Branson da isfinansira edna vakva MEDERNIZIRANA flota !!!!!!! Pogledaj gi sporedbite so 747 i finansiskite kalkulacii!!!!!
OooOo aeeeeee ova mozhe i u Bitola da sleta a? Neli Bitola nema aerodrom, ama go ima Dragor :)
concrete Ajde aviondzii,ima li nekoj objasnuvanje na ova????? Nesto go sledam renoviranjeto na ovoj avio i vo negovata istorija ima edno interesno ime...... Detailed History of KG651 [img]http://www.image.imgfreak.com/DC3.jpg[/img] * Built in Oklahoma City USA, allocated manufacturers serial number 13468 - 30th May 1944. * Delivered to the US Army Air Force on 30th May 1944 as 42-108962 * Diverted to the Lend-Lease Programme as RAF Registration KG651 in Montreal - 03 Jun 1944 * Arrived in UK - 13 Jun 1944 * Delivered to 109 Operational Training Unit (OTU) Crosby in Eden, Cumberland - 26 Aug 1944 * 24 Sqn Hendon (Now the site of the RAF Museum) - 29 Aug 1945 * 1383 Transport Conversion Unit (T)CU Crosby in Eden - Mar 1946 * 1333 Transport Support Conversion Unit (TS)CU Leicester East - 23 Jul 1946 * Surplus to requirements, into storage with 22 Maintenance Unit (MU) Silloth, Cumberland - 1 Oct 1946 * Sold by the RAF to Air Prospectors - 21 Nov 1946 * Pan African Air Charters Ltd of South Africa - Registered ZS-BRW - 16 May 1947 * Cyprus Airways, named "Paphos" - Registered G-AMHJ - 06 Feb (year unknown) * Iraq Petroleum Transport Co Ltd - 28 Jun 1956 * Hunting Clan Air Transport Ltd - 17 A pr 1957 * Hunting Clan Air Services Ltd - 9 Jan 1958 * Iraq Petroleum Transport Company Ltd, named "Qa:Petroleum" - 11 Jul 1958 * British United Airways Ltd - 15 May 1961 * Morton Air Services Ltd - 14 Jul 1962 * BUIA L (Dak Mk 6) - 1 Nov 1968 * British Island Airways - 20 Jul 1971 * Site Aviation Ltd - 08 Jan to 21 Jan 1974 * Macedonian Airways Ltd - 15 Mar 1974* * Humber Airways Ltd - 30 Dec 1974 * Pett Aviation Ltd - 1975 * Intra Airways - 30 Jun 1975 * International Air Cargo as SU-AZI - 5 Nov 1976 * Intra Airways as G-AMHJ again - 26 Aug 1977 * Jersey European Airways - 1 Nov 1979 * Field Aviation Ltd, East Midlands Airport - 23 Jan 1980 * Express Air Freight - Air Atlantique Coventry Airport - 29 Jan 1982 * Air Luton - Date unknown * Air Atlantique - 1987 * Retired from service and stored at Coventry Airport - Jun 2000 * Presented to the Assault Glider Trust by Mr Stuart Powney on behalf of Air Atlantique - 7 Nov 2002 * Delivered to RAF Shawbury by road - 4 Dec 2003
zlotty_co_380 Concrete eve na raduvajse [:D] http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/photorelease/q2/pr_050524g.html sto li ke bide seto ova, inaku znaes citav deka so Boeing 7E7 ke letaat non stop od Sydney za London no samo vo eden pravec, e sega prasanjeto e od koja strana ke bide non stop, jas mislam deka ke letaat LHR-BKK ili SIN - SYD , a za vrajkanje ke bide SYD-LHR non stop. koj znae toa e moe predviduvanje, e sega koj ke leta non stop ni BA ni QF imaat Boeing 7E7 , dvete kompanii naracaa A380 najverojatno Virgin Atlantic ama oni letaat vi HKG so A340-600 sekoj den. No izgleda SQ ke gi zaebi site.
zlotty_co_380 "DELIVERY of Qantas's new flagship double-decker super-jumbo will be delayed by at least six months because of problems at European manufacturer Airbus, damaging the carrier's aim to be the best on the Pacific route. "The shock news comes less than two months after the Europeans trumpeted the successful maiden flight of the plane and two weeks before they go to battle with rival Boeing at the Paris airshow. "Airbus representatives delivered the bad news to Qantas chief executive Geoff Dixon during the International Air Transport Associations annual general meeting in Tokyo this week. "The Australian understands delays apply to all aircraft in the A380 program and will also hit deliveries to Singapore Airlines and Emirates, leaving the manufacturer open to substantial penalties. "We've expressed our disappointment to them," Mr Dixon said last night. "We now want to sit down and make sure the new timetable is met and our people work closely with them to meet this deadline." "Mr Dixon said Airbus gave a variety of reasons for the delay, including difficulties in customising the A380 for individual airlines. "Qantas has a tight contract specifying delivery times of aircraft, and Mr Dixon confirmed last night there were penalties for delays and Qantas would seek compensation." http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au.../0,5744,15470824%255E23349,00.html Kurwa e airbus, ne mi se veruva za ova, pretpostavuav deka ke se sluci nesto vakvo bidejki airbus najavi povejke od 6 meseci zakasnuvanje na avionite za SQ i EK , sto toa fakticki znacese i zadocnuvanje za nas vo QF, no vcera i oficijalo kazaa , i ke napomenam uste nesto QF ke leta so A380 isto od MEL do LAX non-stop za pocetok, i SYD - LHR non stop, a eden od rutata ke bide st osotjenje vo SIN or BKK. Koj ke ceka sega do 2007.
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Concrete eve na raduvajse [:D]
na ova da!!!! [img]http://www.image.imgfreak.com/719103981.jpg[/img]
zlotty_co_380 A be slikata ne e nesto posebna, no povejke preferiram pogolemi avioni vo ovie malive se se osejka , sekoe dvizeenje a zgora na toa i koj znae kolku se stabilni vo vozduh, me mrzi sega da ja baram edna od mojte omileni sliki da ti pokazam, utre zdravje mi se spija sega , p.s. mnogu mal e avionot na slikatam, A380 ke go "goltne ko muva" vo motorite
concrete [img]http://www.airliners.net/photos/middle/3/8/7/945783.jpg[/img] noviot avion na MAT ?????
zlotty_co_380 Ahaaaa znaci go ofarbale , Embraer 170, ne e nekoj nesto poseben, ama bi mozele da zemat barem Airbus A320 ili A319/318 od taa serija. Ova nekko malo. Okolu 80 patnici sobira i nekako ne mi se bendisuvaat deka se mali sekoe pogolemo vrtenje se osejka se, ili pa koga ima turbolencii premnogu se osejka , a za stabilno da se nadevame deka e vo red. Samo da ne znaes concrete dali go kuplie na novo ili se iznajmeni. Mislam deka treba use eden da zemat slicen ili pomala verzija od Embraer.
ProMKD Јас читав дека нови ги купиле околу 3 авиони ембраер, но дека ќе бидат испорачани идната година. И биле купени гланс, а не изнајмени како претходните Боинг-737.
concrete ProMKD , nikoj ne kupuva avion vo kes.....ima posrednici za toa , ama kupeni se novi, kolku sto znam ..t.e. sopstvenik ke bide MAT.....za prv pat ke ima svoi avioni...kolku dolgo..bomo videli!!!! Inaku Zloty....mala drzava mali avioni,baska Embraerov 170 e kvalitetna masina . Ke zaboravev.... imame dve CORI vo hangar ke bidat gotovi krajot na April 2006 , zainteresiran li si za edna Micro kompanija koja ke vozi po eden patnik ***:):):):)???? Ti imas iskustvo toj biznis, a i nekoi nameri vo toj pravec :):):)!!!! *** ako ima sreka(turbolencija) i ako nosi cigla so mleko , na krajot ke ima cigla so puter....cista dobivka!!!!
zlotty_co_380 Aj ke vidime so avioni se, so srejka neka mu e, ama sepak mozebi podobro ke bese Airbus serijata da ja dovleckaa A319/320 ke vrsese ubava rabota. Vidis Pristina Air imaat A320 a nasive so komarci pak se vrtat. A toa biznisot so Cori ke ti go dadam tebe [:D], prvin ti zapocni da promoviras air service between skopje and ? , pa ako ima zanteresirani ke zemime i po uste 2-3 cesni. Ke pravime milioni,a ?
zlotty_co_380 The first A380 arrives in Frankfurt The first A380 aircraft (MSN001) has begun a series of airport compatibility tests around the world. Frankfurt airport in Germany was the first to receive it from Toulouse early morning 29th October. The airport compatibility tests that took place on Saturday included landing, taxiing, docking at a terminal, checking passenger boarding bridge positioning, and take-off. There were also routine ground procedures such as loading baggage and food supplies, cleaning and refuelling. Airbus representatives are very satisfied with the testing. The flight test aircraft cabin is fitted with flight-test instrumentation, measuring equipment and ballast tanks that can be filled with water to simulate the weight of a full passenger load and cargo. Allowed onto the tarmac at the former military section of the airport, thousands turned up to view the aircraft despite the obscuring morning fog. The aircraft and its six crew members will return to Toulouse on Sunday morning. With over 100 flights and over 360 flight hours, the first A380 (MSN001) is ahead of the test programme schedule and showing very good results. Next, for the first time since the A380 took to the skies, the aircraft will leave Europe for airports in Asia. Singapore will be the first airport outside Europe to receive the A380 aircraft on November 8 for its next aircraft compatibility testing. Subsequent destinations are Kuala Lumpur, Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. Meanwhile, the second of the five A380 (MSN004) test aircraft successfully took to the air on 18th October over southwestern France. This aircraft will join the first A380 (MSN001) in the flight test campaign that started on 27th April. Singapore Airlines' first resident SIA A380 representative in Toulouse Back at the production line, launch customer Singapore Airlines brings in a human face to the Airbus team in Toulouse. The first resident SIA A380 technical manager Gordon Koh arrived in Toulouse in mid-September to begin working on-site at the A380 final assembly line alongside a team of Airbus customer inspection managers (CIM). The CIMs liaise between the customer and the production line, updating the customer on progress and keeping the production line aware of customer expectations. Having Gordon on-site means the speedier resolution of issues as they emerge and that customer confidence in product quality is increased. G#233;rard Piau, head of CIMs, A380 final assembly line and delivery, points out that most importantly, everyone working on the production line gets to know the human being behind the customer. As Singapore Airlines will be the first to receive the brand new type of aircraft, Gordon’s job as resident technical manager has grown beyond the usual flight-testing to include certification. With the first five A380s destined for delivery to Singapore Airlines, two other inspectors will join him in February 2006. Written by EuroRSCG C&O. Supplied courtesy of Airbus. Win free flights on SIA with A380 Quiz and Draw For those who have yet to take part, the Singapore Airlines and Singapore Changi Airport A380 Quiz and Draw contest is still ongoing. The contest runs till 30 November 2005. All you need to do is to pick up a contest form at any Customer Service Counter within Changi Airport’s transit area and answer two questions to enter the draw. Visit the A380 Exhibit at Terminal 2 transit central to find out the answers. Don’t miss this chance to win a free pair of air tickets to any Singapore Airlines destination of your choice! Stay with us for more groundbreaking news and information about the new SIA A380. To view past press releases on our A380, you may visit our website at www.singaporeair.com, or the Airbus website at www.airbus.com. We look forward to keeping you updated. The Singapore Airlines A380 Team
concrete [IMG]http://www.filelodge.com/files/2093/384964.jpg[/IMG] Mojov star prijatel , me natera sabajlevo podobro da se poglednam vo ogledalo :):):)!!!
zlotty_co_380 Please be informed that Airbus has deferred the Airbus A380 (MSN001) visit to Singapore on 8th November due to Rolls-Royce engine change considerations. Airbus is in the process of re-scheduling the visit to Friday, 11th November 2005. For more information, please refer to the Airbus website at www.airbus.com.
concrete [IMG]http://www.filelodge.com/files/2093/12333.jpg[/IMG] Red Bare In :):)!!!
OooOo
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[IMG]http://www.filelodge.com/files/2093/12333.jpg[/IMG] Red Bare In :):)!!!
c cc cc c c c vaka li u Evropa be? [:D]
OooOo World's biggest airliner makes first long-haul flight SINGAPORE (Reuters) - The world's biggest airliner, the European Airbus A380, touched down in Singapore on Friday, completing its first flight to Asia -- the most competitive market for planemaker Airbus and its U.S. rival Boeing. The double-decker superjumbo, designed to carry 555 passengers but with room for more than 800, landed at the city-state's Changi airport after a 12-hour flight from Airbus' headquarters near Toulouse in southern France. The A380, as long as eight London buses and with enough room on its wings to park 70 cars, heralds a new era in passenger travel and is a challenge to Boeing in the battle for market share in the global aviation industry. Airbus, part of aerospace group EADS, has received 159 orders and commitments from 16 customers for the four-engined plane, still short of the 250 it says is the break-even point. The planemaker has three A380s in flight testing and expects to attain certification in the last quarter of 2006, in time for first delivery to initial operator Singapore Airlines. The A380 has cost 12 billion euros to develop and is running up to six months behind schedule. The plane's Asian tour was delayed by four days because engine supplier Rolls-Royce had to replace two of its four engines before the trip after one of them overheated during a test flight two weeks ago. A subsequent tour to Australia remains unchanged and the plane will then fly on to Kuala Lumpur as Airbus carries out airport compatibility checks with the mammoth double-decker.
zlotty_co_380 Utre Airbus A380 , doajga vo SYDNEY , k*rwa utre ke bide prekrasen den ako ne gi smenat planovite, Airbus A380 , The great way to flay
zlotty_co_380 Welcome to Internatoinal Airport , Singapore - Changi AIBUS A380 , SINGAPORE AIRLINES [img]http://www.airliners.net/photos/middle/6/4/1/957146.jpg[/img]
zlotty_co_380 "Боинг" со рекордно долг непрекинат лет ЛОНДОН, 11 ноември (АП) - Авион на "Боинг" вчера слета во Лондон откако успеа да го собори светскиот рекорд за најдолг непрекинат лет со комерцијален џет. Авионот "777-200ЛР ворлдлајнер", еден од најновите авиони на "Боинг", слета по 13 часот по Средноевропско време на аеродромот "Хитору" во Лондон по речиси 23 часовно летање во кои измина 20.300 километри од Хонгконг. Авионот ги надлетал Тихиот Океан и Северна Америка пред да слета во Лондон. "Боинг" соопшти дека претставници на Гинисовната книга за светски рекорди го следеле летот и присуствувале на слетувањето во "Хитроу". Капетан на летот беше жена, Сузана Дарси-Хенеман, во авионот имаше четворица пилоти и 35 патници и останат екипаж, меѓу кои и претставници на "Боинг", новинари и патници. "Боинг" сакаше да со џетот да го собори рекордот што "боингот 747-400" го постави со лет од 17.039 од Лондон до Сиднеј во 1989 година. Рекордниот лет е дел од жестоката конкуренција со европскиот ривал "Ербас". Џетот "777-200ЛР ворлдлајнер" е направен како директен ривал на популарниот "ербас 340-500", кој има капацитет за летање од 16.700 километри. По полетувањето од Хонгконг, "боингот" го надлетал Тихиот Океан, ја минал Северна Америка и Атланскиот Океан по што слетал во Лондон. Обично летовите од Хонгконг за Лондон се изведуваат преку Русија. http://www.vest.com.mk/default.asp?id=107231&idg=6&idb=1614&rubrika=Svet
zlotty_co_380 Deneska Airbus A 380 pristigna vo prviot Avstraliski grad, Brisbanne, utre pristignuva vo Sdyeny vo 09:10am , ke napravi kruzenja okolu operata house i harbour bridge, darling harbour, i ke se upati za sletuvanje na Internationa Terminal KingsfordSmith preku Sydenhanm. k*rwa... odvaj go cekam da go vidam, inaku ova e samo del kako izgleda vnatre, [img]http://www.defesanet.com.br/rv/le_bourget_05/imagens/eads/A380_conference.jpg[/img] eve go ovdeka vo Brisbane deneska koga pristignal: [img]http://www.airliners.net/photos/middle/3/6/0/958063.jpg[/img] i utre se ocekuva Sydney, zadutre Melbourne, pa Kuala Lumpur i nazad Evropa.
zlotty_co_380 I konecno deneska na 13.11.2005 , cudevisteto sleta i vo Sydney na KingsfordSmith vo 10:05 na runway 34L. Thanks to Qantas and Airbus za ovoj spektakal sto go napravija. Pred da sleta na 34L , vozdusniot avtobus napravi nekolku kruzenja nad Sydney i okolinata za da go pretstavat. AIRBUS A380 in Sydney: [img]http://www.airliners.net/photos/small/3/7/6/958673.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.airliners.net/photos/small/6/2/8/958826.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.airliners.net/photos/small/7/7/8/958877.jpg[/img]
OooOo Ovoj na Qantas nekako mnogu pomal mi izgleda od onoj na Singapore Airlines. Sho e rabotata?
DJ_SHEMA slikite se pomali :))))
zlotty_co_380 f**ken k*rwa pocekaj malce [:D], kamerata mi e zaborqamvena na Tulamarine vo Melbourne, najverojatno vo petok ke si ja zemem nazad, cekaj da pobaram na internet, ama tamu kade sto sum clen na forumot samo mali mi gi vadi, nekako ne raboti nesto, se e zakoceno . Ama ke gi stavam no worries mates. That is Airbus and it will be full screan here on this forum.
OooOo hahahahahahhaah :)))))))))))
zlotty_co_380
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hahahahahahhaah :)))))))))))
Pocekaj malce ,sega ke ti stavam slika kako izgelda od mojot balkon i sto gledam od balkonot postojano. Blisku mi e do se. Samo dve - tri minuti daj mi, samo neznam kolku golmea ke mi bide slikata
zlotty_co_380 Eve vidi, utre ke ja popravam slikata , na ovoj pc nemam photoshop, utre ke go stavam i ke ja smenam , ovaa so paint e secena i za nikade e. Na samo 3-4 minuti od runway 25R. Pred tebe SQ , Singapore Airlines Boeing 747-400, i ete go zaminuva uste eden Cnina Airways za Taipei , on ke poletuva od 16R. [img]http://k.1asphost.com/Zlotty/images/kingsfordsmith.JPG[/img]
OooOo Ti kje se mrdnesh choek ... pored sam aerodrom si? :)
zlotty_co_380 Yee tuka ziveam , vo najgolemoto makedonsko selo Rockdale, inaku mene ic ne mi smetaat zvucite na avionote, toa najmalku mi smeta, tuka odbrav deka mi e blisko do rabota, i peski si odam, samo pomini go avtopatot i tamu sum, utre ke stavam sliki sto mi se slikani od terasa kako sletuvaat. Eve edna od niv, a utre povejke ako sakas da vidis :) , inaku prekrasni ptici se veruvaj mi [img]http://k.1asphost.com/Zlotty/images/010.jpg[/img]
mafisKumA
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Originally posted by OooOo
Ovoj na Qantas nekako mnogu pomal mi izgleda od onoj na Singapore Airlines. Sho e rabotata?
OooOo eh aj sega ve molam so zlotty prestanete "to compare sizes of who's is bigger" [;)][:o)][:I]
zlotty_co_380 Ajde da vidime koj sega ima pogolem , mislam avion SQ or QF. Eve i sliki momentalno od vozdusniot avtobus od Sydney. Na zalost on deneska si zamina za tretata i posledna turnea niz Australia, deneska rano nautro A380 zamina za Melbourne i utre zaminuva nazad za France via Kuala Lumpur. Ding Dong, Ding Dong, May I have your attention please , Ladies and Gentlemen’s welcome to International Airport Kingsford Smith, Sydney, Australia. This was the flight number 103 from Brisbane to Sydney. QANTAS - Spirit of Australia [img]http://www.airliners.net/photos/middle/7/7/4/959477.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.airliners.net/photos/middle/5/5/0/959055.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.airliners.net/photos/middle/6/7/0/959076.jpg[/img]
mafisKumA ok zlotty you proved that yours is bigger than OooOo's or was it Australias bigger than Singapores (i'm confused now) [:p][:p][:p]
ProMKD [IMG]http://img492.imageshack.us/img492/4285/matembraer170brazilsmall4up.jpg[/IMG] Eve go Embraer 170, najnoviot avion vo flotata na MAT, za koj bese sklucen kupoprodazen dogovor sega brzo. MAT plati 22 milijoni dolari za nego.
zlotty_co_380 cmooon ova nad mene igracka e , sto go kupuvale, podobro Airbus A320 nego ova komarecov, aj ke go probame vo Januari , mada smo ednas se vozev so Embraer 145 od Zurich za Frankfurt i mnogu se nisase, taka da ne bese mnogu stabilen, a ova ke vidime. p.s; si mozel prijatel malku pomala slika da zakacis vaka cela rezolucija na monitorov ja menuva p.s; kumo ista igracaka e , i taa na Singapore i taa nasata na Qantas , edna igracka e i samo ja setaat , kaj sto odi i ja menuvaat lepenkata, sega nekolku dena i pisuva QANTAS - Spirit of Australia ,denes si zaminuva od Melbourne za na pat za doma, ama nekako ne mi go napravi keifot deka prvin kaj tebe dojde :{, ama kako i da e vgodina ke gi imame pet. * * * * * THE SPIRIT OF AUSTRALIA * * * * *
concrete Zlotty_ izgleda pocna da "palis" na ova letackava kino sala:):):)!!!! A be , da ne mi kazese kade ti gleda prozorecot i da ne bese toa areodromot vo dvor sto go imas , ke pomislev vo Ljubojno na pokrivite na komsiite gledas:):):)!!!!
zlotty_co_380 Ne be kakva Lubonja, povejke lici na Sarandinovo , takva forma na pokrivite ima samo u Sarandinovo :)) p.s: Ej da ti kazam SQ sletal na vreme , mozes sega da spijes :)
ProMKD zlotty stajv pomala slika, samo za tebe [:)]
zlotty_co_380
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Originally posted by ProMKD
zlotty stajv pomala slika, samo za tebe [:)]
Thank you mate [:D] neli poubooo sega lici slikata, inaku ako sakas koga ke doklapa u skopje toa pticata, dali bi mozel da dzvrknis nekoja fotka, i da mi gi pratis da gi stavam na internet thx
OooOo Da ne otvaram nov topik ... Pearson airport to raise landing fees The Greater Toronto Airport Authority is expected to announce fee hikes for 2006 on Tuesday, cementing Toronto's Pearson International Airport's position as the world's most expensive airport at which to land. The Toronto Star reports that the GTAA will announce the landing fee hikes on Tuesday, which are expected to be between six and eight per cent. This means it would cost more than $13,000 for an airline to land a 747-400 at Pearson. In contrast, officials at Tokyo's Narita airport recently announced reductions that will drop the landing fee for a similar jet to the equivalent of $7,300. It's the eight consecutive increase at Pearson in as many years, the newspaper reports. Air Canada chairman Robert Milton recently warned that high landing fees charged by Pearson threaten to scare away valuable business. "It is difficult to be happy when Toronto has now evolved to be the most expensive airport in the world," Milton, current chairman of the International Air Transport Association, said in the latest edition of IATA's Airlines International magazine "This dubious honour comes after pressure from IATA resulted in ... reductions at Narita, the previous record-holder," Milton told the magazine. "With its high prices, Toronto's task will become increasingly difficult. Remember that it does not have a market the size of Tokyo to anchor its operations. People will start to fly around it." GTAA spokeswoman Connie Turner, who would not confirm the size of the hikes, told the newspaper that it's not fair to compare fees because Pearson charges all-in-one fees while others charge additional fees. She also noted that rent to Ottawa has doubled. The GTAA, a not-for-profit corporation, has been lobbying for a better deal on ground rent. Earlier this month, federal Transport Minister Jean Lapierre defended Ottawa's plan to cut rent for Canadian airport authorities by $8 billion over the next 47 years. "Some people will say it's not enough. But I will tell you how I had to leave quite a bit of blood on the floor as a result of the battle" to secure rent relief from cabinet," Lapierre said. Under the new multi-year strategy introduced by Ottawa in May, Pearson's ground rent would continue to increase gradually at first, while other Canadian airports would see a reduction. Pearson also stands to receive $5 billion in rent relief, but the reductions will not kick in until 2011.
zlotty_co_380 Omg pa toa e skapo, pa ete kako Canada ke se zbogati, ke kari na vakov nacin ke gi renada kompaniive, samo da gi izvestam kanajganive deka AC33 Air Canada letot od Vancouver via Honolulu za Sydney deneska bese tocno na vreme sto e mnogu neobicno , Air Canada pristigna vo 07:20am i si zamina nazad za Vancouver via Honolulu vo 09:30am. Zatoa deneska cel den duva veter [:D]
OooOo Da ne otvaram nova tema ... prochitajte go [url="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17323401%255E29677,00.html"]ova![/url]
ProMKD Ludnica so zenava. A imam iskustvo so pijanici po avionite. Ima "open bar" kako sto gledaat oni, i ajde site lokaat.
zlotty_co_380 Ima sekakvi budali, ama kako i da e , vratite nemozat da se otvorat od stranata na patnicite, kolku i da pokusuvaat nemozat dodeka capetanot ne gi otkoci od cockpitot. On koga ke kaze, can i have the cabin crew for take off position and all doors on auto please, togas site vrati se na avtomatska kontrola od stranata na kapetanot, a koga ke se sleta , i koga ke kazat after landing all doors on manual please togas koj i da pokusa moze da gi otvori
zlotty_co_380
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Originally posted by concrete
http://www.micom.net/oops/ interesni fotografii.....a ova za zlotty i "letackoto" drustvo ovde : Samo 200 grama SEMTEX .....eee!!!..i mene me iznenadi !!!!!
The page cannot be displayed The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings. A bas me interesira kolega sto e ova, po zboruvanjevo mi kazuvas deka nesto ludnica e. tuku aj sabajle se nadevam deka ke raboti
ProMKD sea raboti probaj
zlotty_co_380 Dobri fotki, nema na sto, tuku ovdeka ima fotki od A380 slikani od vnatre , koj saka moze da gi vidi podole. Slikani se na Emirates A380, go ima i kapetnaot na ova avionov sto go vozi http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=419094 http://coppermine.luchtzak.be/albums/userpics/10001/Jumbeach.jpg http://coppermine.luchtzak.be/albums/userpics/10001/Jumbeach.jpg http://coppermine.luchtzak.be/albums/userpics/10001/PatCM1Lite.jpg http://coppermine.luchtzak.be/albums/userpics/10001/PatTarmac.jpg http://coppermine.luchtzak.be/albums/userpics/10001/CM1Cockpit.jpg
concrete Ej zlotty imas tamu nekade vo toa Avstralijata nekoi na http://www.lightwing.com.au/ ne sum videl tolku hippie kompanija , a so neobicni idei za mesanje na konstruktivni materijali...se mislam dali da mu go pratam na Bucko linkot...izgleda epten imaat iskustvo vo sistemi za nadziranje na stada [img]http://www.lightwing.com.au/image/0104backfence.jpg[/img]
zlotty_co_380 A be Concrete, ova e Australia, ovde ovcarite nemaat stap, koristat avioni, motori, koli [:D], znaes ovcarska moderna rabota. Moreeee kolku sme moderni.A za Bucko ic da ne mu se mislis, pod itno da mu go pratis linkot mozebi ke mu vrkne nekoja bojle ideja u toa tikvata negova za pomoderno zivinarstvo vo Makedonija [:D]
zlotty_co_380 Aj koj ke pogodi sto avion e ovoj sto sletuva , glavna nagrada e slikata originalna ke mu ja pratam po email: [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/010.jpg[/IMG] Ako vi treba pomos slobodno kazete, ke vi zumiram podobro.
dada Sani Zlotty, od slikata sto si ja stavil edvaj se gleda deka e avion. Ova ni sokol ne moze da go pogodi:)
zlotty_co_380 Ok, odime so malce pogolema pomos , inaku sokol ne e [:D], se nadevam ova ke pomogne malce, ako treba uste pomos kazuvajte [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/011.jpg[/IMG] ova pred vas e SQ Singapore Airlines Boeing 747-400 Mega Top, ama toa sto sletuva prasanjeto e , sto kompanija e ?
dada Sani Zlotty, a ako ne pogodime dobivame chokolado taka?:) B787
zlotty_co_380
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Originally posted by dada Sani
Zlotty, a ako ne pogodime dobivame chokolado taka?:) B787
Ha ha ha ne e B787, eve pogolema pomos sega bi trebal oda go pogodis, a da za cokolado ne se sekiraj duri i edno kilo cokolado ke ti pratam [;)] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/012.jpg[/IMG]
concrete Batali paralel runway pa vrtenje na desno etc....nekogas ke treba da ti odrzam kratka obuka za brzo prepoznavanje na objekt vo vozduh...:):)!! ( interpretacija na fotografii, pogled od gore , pogled od dole, itn.itn. sepak letuckas okolu , mora da razlikuvas golem VRAP od UFO).......he,he!! Ptica e..ne podaleku od 15-20 metra od kabelot pred kukjata od kade si slikal, prvo ima pogolema relativna brzina vo odnos na ekpozicijata,zosto e mnogu blisku do objektivot vo odnos na 747 koj verojatno ti se gleda kako da visi vo vozduh :):):)!!!
zlotty_co_380
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Originally posted by ProMKD
B737? [:p]
Ha ha ha [:D], ne e B737, eve go odgovorot OS 001 Austrian Airlines operated by Lauda Air onboard Boeing 777-200 You have permission for landing on runway 34L, Welcome to International Airport Kingsford Smith, Sydney , Australia, you can taxi on Gate A52 like alwasy u do, at the North Terminal 1. [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/013.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/014.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/015.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/016.jpg[/IMG] sakatae uste prasanja ili dosta vi bea? Nekako tesko vi odi[;)] Cokoladoto ostanuva za slednata epizoda
ProMKD B737? [:p]
OooOo MAT na koj terminal sletuva u Sydney?
OooOo Sho para dvosedov?
ProMKD
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Originally posted by OooOo
Sho para dvosedov?
Abe so te interesira poarno zeme si edno ficho [:)]
zlotty_co_380
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Originally posted by OooOo
MAT na koj terminal sletuva u Sydney?
Eve go MAT koj go barase.... eeee ova bese drzava na vremeto, redovna avionska linija Skopje-Belgrade-Dubai-Singapore-Sydney-Melbourne-Singapore-Dubai-Belgrade-Skopje McDonnell Douglas DC-10-30 - Melbourne (osumdesetite godini) [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/j01.jpg[/IMG] Boeing 737-3H9 - Melbourne (1989 godina) [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/j01a.jpg[/IMG] Boeing 737-3H9 - Melbourne (1989 godina) , znaci sletuval na Terminal vo Tulamarine na 02, gledas koja prednost sme ja imale megu prvite bridge sekogas sme se parkirale, ama mene me cudi kako avionov izdrzuval tolku golema relacija od Belgrade do Melbourne preku Dubai , Singapore i Sydney, tri pati nedelno [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/j02.jpg[/IMG] A na koj temrinal MAT sletuval vo Canada?
beaver hunter za da mozhi MAT da sleta na YYZ , denonokjno se raboti na proshiruvanje na pistata i pristanishnata zgrada... bi trebalo se sletuva na Terminal 1.
zlotty_co_380 Eve uste edna, slika koja sto budi spomeni, aaaa slusnav MAT na YYZ ke sletuval so A380 zatoa pravat prosiruvanje na se, od pista do terminali , oti se ocekuva golem priliv na patnici , (neocekuvan) od Makedonija :)) [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/jat.jpg[/IMG] JAT - Yugoslav Airlines Boeing 707-340C Melbourne - Tullamarine (MEL / YMML) Australia - Victoria, October 1973
zlotty_co_380 Da se vratime u realnosta , http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/africa/12/11/nigeria.crash/index.html Nigeria crash: 65 children killed [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/sosoliso.jpg[/IMG] PORT HARCOURT, Nigeria (Reuters) -- Officials in Nigeria say they are investigating the cause of a passenger plane crash that killed 107 people, including at least 65 secondary school children. Four more passengers died overnight with three still surviving from the Sosoliso Airlines aircraft, which was en route from the nation's capital Abuja when it crashed at Port Harcourt's airport Saturday afternoon during bad weather, acting director of Nigeria's federal aviation authority Femi Shittu told CNN Sunday. Government spokesman Femi Fani-Kayode vowed a full investigation into the cause of Saturday's crash. "We will get to the bottom of it, we will ascertain the cause and the government and Mr. President (Olusegun Obasanjo) will do everything within his power to ensure that this sort of thing does not happen within our airspace again," he said. At least one American was among those on board, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Embassy in Abuja told CNNRadio. The woman was a nurse's aide, the spokeswoman said, but provided no further details and would not release the woman's name pending notification of relatives. Deputy government spokesman Honour Sirawoo told journalist David Clarke that at least 65 children were among those killed. The children were students from a Catholic secondary school in Abuja, who returning home for the holidays, according to The Rev. Felix Femi Ajakaye, spokesman for the Catholic Secretariat of Nigeria in the nation's capital, Abuja. The airlines' managing director Oscar Ikwuemesi confirmed "there were a large number of children aboard the flight," without offering any details. He said the passenger list has been handed over to government authorities, and no information will be released until the families have been notified. The students, who ranged in age from 10 to 18 years old, attended Loyola Jesuit College in Abuja, the reverend said. Rescue workers recovered 103 bodies from the crash, which were transported to two mortuaries in Port Harcourt, Shittu said. The identities of those killed will be released "at an appropriate time," he said. Relatives clutching photographs crowded the morgues on Sunday, searching for bodies of loved ones. (Full story) The seven surviving passengers were taken to Gateway Memorial Hospital and the University of Port Harcourt Teaching Hospital, where four of them died Sunday, hospital officials reported. Witnesses said the plane exploded after the crash-landing, and a massive fire engulfed the aircraft. The exact cause though remains unclear. Sosoliso Airlines, a Nigerian company, was established in 1994 and began domestic flights to six cities in 2000. There are no reports of previous crashes involving the airline. Nigeria's air safety record is mixed, with more than 10 crashes since 1995, killing over 470 people -- including Saturday's crash. Most recently, a two-seater aircraft crashed at Kaduna International airport on November 29, killing two people, according to local media. A month earlier, a Bellview Airlines plane went down in bad weather near Lagos, killing all 117 people on board. "I mean three air crashes in less than eight weeks -- it is another national tragedy and Mr. President is absolutely devastated about this," said Nigeria's Minister of Information Frank Nweke. One of the passengers killed in the October 22 crash was an American, Maj. Joseph J. Haydon Jr., 40, of Fredericksburg, Va., who was assigned to the Office of Defense Cooperation in the U.S. Embassy in Abuja. Nigerian officials, including President Obasanjo, have promised to improve the country's airline safety standards.
concrete Batali crash-ovi , eve ti primer na interesen pristap kon "avionskiot biznis": http://www.milehighatlanta.com/pages/1/
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Originally posted by beaver hunter
za da mozhi MAT da sleta na YYZ , denonokjno se raboti na proshiruvanje na pistata i pristanishnata zgrada... bi trebalo se sletuva na Terminal 1.
Sletuvaat "edni na M" na eden aerodrom: ttras-trrrusss...kocenje do besvest i zapiraat pred fingerot. Poglednuva levo,desno pa se vrti kapetanot nakaj kopilotot: vidi be ova budalive kolku kusa ja napravile pistava , a kolku siroka !!!!
zlotty_co_380 Concrete imama nekoj fotografii koj sto se nadevam deka ke ti se dopadnat, ova e UA Boeing 747 on the way to Los Angelos. [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/ua01.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/ua02.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/ua03.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/ua04.jpg[/IMG]
zlotty_co_380 Dobi vesti na daleku se slusaat :)) "Квантас" купи авиони од "Боинг" за 10 милијарди долари СИДНЕЈ, 15 декември (Ројтерс) - Производителот на авиони "Боинг" доби нарачка од 10 милијарда долари од авиопревозникот "Квантас ервејс" да му достави 65 авиони "боинг 787 дримлајнер", со опција да нарача дополнителни 50 авиони со што и зададе удар на конкурентната фирма "Ербас". Одлуката на австралискиот авиопревозник се случува во рекордната година за нарачки на "Боинг" и "Ербас", која 80 отсто е во сопственост на фирмата европската фирма "Аероспејс дефенс енд спејс" и 20 отсто во сопственост на британската "БАЕ системс". "'Квантас', осмиот по големина авиопревозник во светот според пазарната вредност, вчера соопшти дека нарачал 45 авиона од типот "Б787" со опција за дополнителна нарачка од уште 20 авиони. http://www.vest.com.mk/default.asp?id=109048&idg=6&idb=1643&rubrika=Svet
OooOo zlotty ova vrapcive u australija nekako mnogu golemi be ... imate pomali?
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ProMKD Dali nekoj ima sliki od avionskite nesrekji vo Makedonija? Znam imas e4 vkupno mislam na nasa teritorija (patnicki avioni) od 1991 do sega. Dve ili tri se slucija vo 1994, edna vo 1993 taka nesto. Dve ili tri u SK ednas u ohrid.
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Dali nekoj ima sliki od avionskite nesrekji vo Makedonija? Znam imas e4 vkupno mislam na nasa teritorija (patnicki avioni) od 1991 do sega. Dve ili tri se slucija vo 1994, edna vo 1993 taka nesto. Dve ili tri u SK ednas u ohrid.
Jas najdov nesto samo ova sto e podole, a sliki ke pobaram podocna, a sega ke odam oti vrapcite me cekaat, denes prv na lista e CX 110 za brzo vreme od HKK. 5 March 1993; Palair Macedonian Airlines F100; Skopje, Macedonia: The crew lost control and crashed in early climb due to icing. Four of the six crew and 77 of the 91 passengers were killed 20 November 1993; Avioimpex Yak 42D; near Ohrid, Macedonia The aircraft was on a flight from Geneva, Switzerland to Skopje, but had diverted to Ohrid due to weather at Skopje. The aircraft subsequently crashed into Mount Trojani near Ohrid. All eight crew members and 115 of the 116 passengers were killed povise info tuka: http://www.airsafe.com/events/survivor.htm
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zlotty ova vrapcive u australija nekako mnogu golemi be ... imate pomali?
Eve be OooOo pomali vrapci , ovie ti gi posvetuvam na tebe. Toa e Virgin Blue slikan e deneska na pladne koga odev za na stanica, ama malce mnogu mi zabega u visina vrabecot i odvaj go fativ barem malce [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/0140.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/0141.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/0142.jpg[/IMG]
zlotty_co_380 A ovoj vrabecov deneska pak go nacekav, Unatied Airlines no ovpoj pat za SFO , San Francisko. ovoj je slikan denes okolu 15 casot za Los Angelos zaminuvase, Unatied Airlines, a ovie trite posledni sliki sabajle za SFO sto zaminaa vo 12:10pm, ama poentata mi e ista sorta na ptica se: [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/008.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/0137.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/0138.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/0139.jpg[/IMG] Eve uste eden vrabec no ovoj e malce od posofticiranite Virgin Atlantic, Airbus A340-600 on his way to London via Hong Kong, 16:15min , 21.12.2005, departing to take off from runway 25R [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/0012.jpg[/IMG]
concrete Ako dobro razbrav OooOo za ovoj vrabec zboruva:):)!!! Stvarno nekoj krupnicok "vrabec" !!!!
OooOo Eeeeeeee toa e vrabec :))))) A Strel(K)ata epten ti e indijanska :)
zlotty_co_380 I toa drugotoo e avion, toj letna od paralel runway, a e faten samo na vrtenje, na 45 stepeni na desno vrtat, zatoa taka lici, inaku e avion.
zlotty_co_380 Concrete eve ti eden dobar clip, zena pilot e. http://flightlevel350.com/viewer.php?id=4852
Fra Gledam trgate biznisi za osnovanje kompanija i se e vo red, i jas smetam deka bi se isplatelo do Dusseldorf ili Zurich barem 3 pati vo nedelata po tolku niski ceni. No eve gledam ovde vie poveke znaete, zosto togas propadandaa avioimpex i palair? eve fokerot na palair skapuva vo francija, citav na net vo 94 imal 1.6 mil DM dolg a vardar air togas imal 400 iljadi marki. avioimpex od 4te aviona sega samo ovoj go najdov yakovlevot i toa vo hrvatska go vozat. ostanatite tri od flotata so gi imase (tupoljev i DC9 i MD80) koj gi znae kaj se garant skapuvaat mohave. Mislam eve toa e, zosto bas mislite deka ke ima pari, mene me interesira zosto bas propadnaa ovie dve kompanii, imate poveke informacii ili?
zlotty_co_380 ГЕРМАНИЈА (РОЈТЕРС) - Новиот "ербас А380" во вадат од хангарот за боење во фабриката на Ербас во Финкенвердер кај Хамбург. Суперџамбото "А380" на два ката со сериски број МСН2 вчера беше првпат покажан пред јавноста откако заврши процесот на боење. http://www.vest.com.mk/default.asp?id=110473&idg=6&idb=1666&rubrika=Svet bi trebalo SQ za nekolku meseci da go "zbrci", mu se odbrojuvaat denovite, samo slusam deka kartite ke bile 20% poeftini od letovite na Boeing 747-400 sto gi realizira, na relacija SIN-SYD-SIN-LHR kako sto planiraat da letaat, ke imaat 20% poeftini karti, e kolku e vistina vo toa ke vidime za nekolku meseci.
toni_a sto naprajvte so kompanijata? pobrzajte,da ne vi go zemat gluvcite biznisot [:D] Lab-Grown Rat Brain Flies Plane It sounds like science fiction: a brain nurtured in a Petri dish learns to pilot a fighter plane as scientists develop a new breed of "living" computer. But in groundbreaking experiments in a Florida laboratory that is exactly what is happening. The "brain", grown from 25,000 neural cells extracted from a single rat embryo, has been taught to fly an F-22 jet simulator by scientists at the University of Florida. http://blighty.multiply.com/journal/item/770
Goran-Skopje Epten ima mnogu postovi pa me mrzi da pregleduvam, imate nekoj od vas dadeno kompletno objasnuvanje ustvari koja e fintata na poletuvanje, sletuvanje, ruti, svetlosna signalizacija, sistemi CAT, i takvi stvari so koi ke imate ustvari slika kako voopshto doagjate do Melburn i NJ? Goran-Skopje
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Epten ima mnogu postovi pa me mrzi da pregleduvam, imate nekoj od vas dadeno kompletno objasnuvanje ustvari koja e fintata na poletuvanje, sletuvanje, ruti, svetlosna signalizacija, sistemi CAT, i takvi stvari so koi ke imate ustvari slika kako voopshto doagjate do Melburn i NJ? Goran-Skopje
Mnogu prosto: kupis karta, sednes na svoeto mesto i cekas:):):)!!! da izlezes od avionot na destinacijata.....ako pak mozes da izlezes na sopstveni noze...letot e uspesen :):)!! Sega na strana..kompleten odgovor e dolga i siroka.....
Goran-Skopje Chim vikas, nek ti bude![:p] Goran-skopje
zlotty_co_380 Koga bev mal, Avioimpex bese mojot favorit, oni propadnaa zosto drzavata gi unisti , barem taka jas mislam , MAT se glupira sto ne mu dava na AirVardar da pocne da leta, i tie se malce glupi so dva avioni sakaat polno relaciii da rabotat. Se tutkaat uste od posabale i rabotat istovremeno dva grada so edno poletuvanje i zatoa polno patnici nemozat da pojdat tamu kades sto sakaat. Primer: Skopje-Vienna-Zurich-Skopje Treba pazarot da go otvorat za site, uste sme odvoeni od London,Paris, Brisel, Copenhagen , Madrid, da bi letale do ovie gradovi bi mi imale site eftini karti od celiot svet bez razlika od kade sme, konk*rencijata togas ke bide golema. A ti eavionite , TU5 sto go imase ne go racunaj ,toa ne bese avion, so DC9 i MD80 se uste mozese da se raboti, a oni gi isfrlija i kazuvaat razni prikaski koj znae kade se odneseni.
Fra A isto propadna i MAM (Meta Airline Macedonia) tie imaa bugarski mislam prvo Tu-147 a posle na kredit Tu ama ne sum siguren.
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Originally posted by zlotty_co_380
Koga bev mal, Avioimpex bese mojot favorit, oni propadnaa zosto drzavata gi unisti , barem taka jas mislam , MAT se glupira sto ne mu dava na AirVardar da pocne da leta, i tie se malce glupi so dva avioni sakaat polno relaciii da rabotat. Se tutkaat uste od posabale i rabotat istovremeno dva grada so edno poletuvanje i zatoa polno patnici nemozat da pojdat tamu kades sto sakaat. Primer: Skopje-Vienna-Zurich-Skopje Treba pazarot da go otvorat za site, uste sme odvoeni od London,Paris, Brisel, Copenhagen , Madrid, da bi letale do ovie gradovi bi mi imale site eftini karti od celiot svet bez razlika od kade sme, konk*rencijata togas ke bide golema. A ti eavionite , TU5 sto go imase ne go racunaj ,toa ne bese avion, so DC9 i MD80 se uste mozese da se raboti, a oni gi isfrlija i kazuvaat razni prikaski koj znae kade se odneseni.
Zlotka pazi vaka, te chitam sekogash ovde, ama brat mnogu pukash u prazno za neshta shto pojma nemash. Koga se zimaat destinacii, se zimaat i mora da se oddrzuvaat redovni linii bez razlika dali se profitabilni ili ne, mora da se pokrijat troshkovite. Niedna avio kompanija ne moze da drzi linii od tvoite napomenati gradovi koga se znae koja e klientelata od MK: Shipcite!!! Oni kje letaat vo Madrid? Se znae, Base, Cirih, Copenhagen...tamu e parata, nikogo ne zanima dali Zloty, strelec ili kuma dali kje letale od vamu ili tamu, biten e profitot i normalno oni tamu i pazar baraat. Si ima regulativi i dogovori, ako ne izleguva matematikata togash nishto ne se prevzema. ...Avionite bea iznajmeni so cela posada i dodeka beshe zatvoreno kosovo i sankcii na YU se letashe i se prifakjaa divertirani letovi, se barashe mesto povekje vo avion. Tupoljev avionot beshe magare nevideno, maximum take off mu beshe 100.000 kg, sho znachi deka beshe neviden za tovaranje bagash i polnenje na cel avion. Na Avio-impex avionite bea Dc-9 i Md-80, prviot besher cargo verzija i beshe iznajmen od Adrija i beshe dosta ekonomichen i isplatliv. I za kraj zoshto MAT ne dozvoluva, normalno si postoi dogovor od predhodnata vlada koj mora da se isposhtuva ma kako i da bide. Zatoa, pred da napishesh, razmilsi prvo.[;)]
zlotty_co_380 Mmmmmmmm Goran, do nekade i si u pravo, no eve zosto togas Britsh Airrways ne leta za Skopje. Profatibilna relacija, site ke ja koristat taa linija, i vie od Amerika/Canada i nie od Australia/ New Zealand. Znaes i nekogas poeftino e da se pojde od Makeodnija so ovaa relacija Sydney-LosAngelos-Lonodn-Skopje nego da se odi preku Frankfurt/Zurish/Rome , zavi si od kompaniite sekako. No pak da se vratam na prasanje, British Airways izbega od Skopje koga zapocna vojnata i rekoa se povlekuvaat od bezbednosni pricini. Od druga strana letaat redovno za Pristina i sega ke pocnat Tirana. Go koristat aerodromot Heatrow, isto od tamu letaat za Belgrad i Sofija, a zosto samo Skopje go koristea preku Geatwig North Terminal, toa prestavuvase nevidena glavobolka da se premestis do Terminal 4 ili 3 na Heatrow. I od druga strana vo site vesnici pisuvase deka BA se povejkuva od SKP od bezbednosni pricini, pa jas neznam kade e pobezbedno Pristina ili Skopje ili Tirana. Polno raboti nemaat smisla ili sekade igra politikata. A za profatibilna BA sekako ke imaat golem profit, site ke ja koristat.
zlotty_co_380 The big story this month is the launch of the new Singapore Airlines A380 website dedicated to the aircraft at singaporeair.com/a380. Fully interactive and feature-packed, the new site is your gateway to the latest news and information on the Singapore Airlines A380 and the much anticipated first commercial flight. In addition to the latest news and special interactive features you will also find free downloads and, in the next few months, games and prize draws. In other news, the A380 test programme continues apace. An A380 recently spent five days in Iqaluit, Canada, in temperatures below freezing undergoing systems testing. Later this month the same A380 will enjoy considerably warmer conditions when it returns to Singapore for the Asian Aerospace air show. To mark this exciting visit, Singapore Airlines is hosting a lucky draw held at the venue of the Asian Aerospace exhibition itself. Watch out for additions to the Singapore Airlines A380 microsite as it grows in the coming months. In the meantime, please enjoy this latest edition of the Singapore Airlines A380 eNewsletter and the all-new Singapore Airlines A380 website. A380 poleka no sigurno go zavzema neboto, SQ prvi ke go letaat, nekako seuste se drzat vo tajna relacijata koj sto ke ja letaat so A380. Dali ima nekoj, nekoj pretpostavki koja relacija ke ja letaat so Airbus A380 , jas mislam vaka ma da kolku e sigurno pojma nemam i nema nikakvi potvrduvanja od strana na Singapore Airlines SQ. Singapore - Sydney - London Singapore - Sydney - San Francisko (ako dozvoli Australia za ovaa relacija, ma da neveruvam) Singapore - Frankfurt - New York Singapore - London Singapore - Tokyo - Los Angelos / San Francisko - New York
zlotty_co_380 sabajlevo se vrati eden drugar od Singapore, rece bil na airshow sto se odrzuvalo vo Singapore , inku od Indonesia e on, nemozese da najdi zborovi da opise kako ubavo bilo na toa airshow, i sekako eve nekoja slika, za povejke info na www.airliners.net [img]http://photos.airliners.net/photos/middle/1/8/0/1005081.jpg[/img]
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Zlotty uste li si so niet kompanija da pravis...... ovie me udavija , samo mi nudkaat avioni: Dear Sir, We are glad to offer aircraft L1011-500 and L1011-100 on ACMI basis or for Charter flights, -Fraction lease on ACMI basis. -Full Charter or regular services. -Air Taxi operations Hajj, Umra, VIP, evacutions flights. -United Nations, Government, diplomatic support, & military troops movement. -Leisure & Tourism. -Humanitarian & disaster relief. TYPE A/C RANGE CAPACITY CARGO L-1011-100 7 HOURS 362 ALL Y 10 TONS L-1011-500 12 HOURS 291 ALL Y 20 TONS L-1011-500 12 HOURS 21F,39B & 189 Y 20 TONS _______________________________________________ TYPE A/C FUEL CONSUMPTION L-1011-100 7.5 TONS L-1011-500 7.5 TONS L-1011-500 7.5 TONS ___________________ Best regards Aviation Services Germany
EEE betonco, tebe ti prakjaat ponudi a mene vidi sho mi prakjaat Thank you for your e-mail regarding our 737 aircraft. It is our policy to provide the information you requested upon receipt of an exclusive mandate from the end-user holding an operating certificate authorizing you to act as their representative. Since you have not indicated you have a client, would you please provide said information and I will be pleased to provide the specific information you have requested. A ova lokhidov za kolku pari go shitkaat? A 7.5 toni na kolku e ova potroshuvachkava?
Goran-Skopje ...na 100.[:D][:p]
toni_a ama milji! [:D][:D]
zlotty_co_380 Daj be da kupime eden Airbus i da se dogovorime i da go letame, pa ke pravime nanego zabavi isto taka : ) E sega ovie sliki podole mu gi posvetuvam na eden G-din od Ohrid. G-Din Andronik Sapeski Mojot prv pratuced negovoto visocestvo G-din British Airways - Boeing 747-400 zaminuva od runway 25R i vednas posle nego ubavata lepotica nezinoto visocesto G-ga Austrian Airlines so Boeing 777-200 za Vienna. Se uste ne se pristignati do nivnite krajni destinacii nema ni 16 casa odkoga go napustija Sydney. [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT1039.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT1040.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT1041.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT1042.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT1043.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT1044.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT1045.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT1046.jpg[/IMG] *originalnata golemina na sliki se dostapni samo preku baranje
OooOo abe hahahahah na krov si se kachil da slikash?
zlotty_co_380 ha ha ha ha ne be ne sum na krov od balkon mi se sliakni, ama komsiite nad mene tie imaat uste poubava gletka , jas go barav toj stan ama ne mi go dadoa na zalost :( , ako se kacam na krof ke treba da skoknam na trkalata da me soberat i mene, inaku Air Canada da te izvestam si zamina utrovo na vreme i se ocekuva za okolu 18 casa da se vrati Vancuver. Popolse ke ti posvetam nekoj sliki za tebe, uste podobri se, za to otom potom , sega moram da go cekam CX od Hong Kong ke dojdi i ke sleta na run way 07R.
Goran-Skopje ...poletuva, flapsovite i slapsovite se "sobrani".
OooOo Vo ovoj noviov A380 kje mozhe prozor da se otvori ili ushte ne se usovrshile do tolku?
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Originally posted by Goran-Skopje
...poletuva, flapsovite i slapsovite se "sobrani".
ccccc cccccc ccccccccc Goran nekako slabo me razocaruvas : ) nazalost nezinoto visocestvo OS001 sletuvase na runway 34L, ete podole kako se odvivase celiot proces na sletuvanje Ej Goran koga doajgase OS vo Skopje , malce vaka nezgodno prasanje dali nekogs si i gi doprel na neze, ova kazi gi de motorite :) JAs sum i ja doprel duri doprel : ) ama opaskata Poslednata taa dole sto e optegnata , taa tajvankata za G-din OooOo [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT0679.JPG[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT0680.JPG[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT0681.JPG[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT0682.JPG[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT0683.JPG[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT0684.JPG[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT0685.JPG[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT0686.JPG[/IMG] [IMG]http://storage.vmacedonia.net/files/32/Sliki/PICT0674.jpg[/IMG]