ANZAC DAY |
mafisKumA |
this year is the 90th anniversary of ANZAC - LEST WE FORGET
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OooOo |
more info please ... what's ANZAC? |
deni |
ooo gugl it
skrateno , celata voena istoria na new zooland
http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/Gallery/Anzac/Anzacday.htm |
mafisKumA |
ANZAC is the acronym for Australian and New Zealand Army Corps
ANZAC day is to commemorate the fallen soldiers at Gallipoli
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OooOo |
quote: Originally posted by deni
ooo gugl it
skrateno , celata voena istoria na new zooland
http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/Gallery/Anzac/Anzacday.htm
Znam, ama nema site da go napravat toa, chim kje go prochitaat postov. Go napishav toa od prichina za da ostane na forumov pa i da se razvrze diskusija :) Inache prva rabota shto napraviv beshe google :) |
RaGeAnGeL |
Gallipoli and the Nek
In April 1915, the British decided to use Australian soldiers to launch an offensive against the Turkish control of the Dardanelles. Quite stupidly, they landed the Diggers not on an open plain but on the scrub-covered hills of Gallipoli. The Turks were dug in from elevated positions and mowed down the Diggers as they leapt from the boats. Some Australians got ashore and dug in for nine months of trench warfare.
One minor battle, that for the Nek, has come to symbolise the essence of the Gallipoli campaign. The Nek was a position of Turkish trenches 18 meters from those of the Australians that the British commandeers believed could be taken with four offensive raids. At 4.30 am on the 7th August 1915, the first wave of Diggers leapt from their trenches and were mown down by Turkish machine guns. The second, then third and then fourth shortly followed and met a similar fate. Within minutes, 800 Australians lay dead or wounded on a piece of ground no larger than two tennis courts.
The charge was then called off.
Why do Australians remember this failure?
It is a intriguing question as to why Australians have chosen to remember a failure like Gallipoli and in particular, the Nek. After all, most great battle stories involve a Spartan like performance of a few challenging many and emerging triumphant; thus delivering freedom to those who will remember them.
Australians probably remember Gallipoli because in Australia, mateship is more highly valued than public accolades. The Diggers who returned from the war were not interested in receiving praise for their achievements. All they wanted was to remember their mates whom had fallen. To achieve this aim, they began reciting a paragraph from the poem 'Ode for the Fallen':
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old;
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.
By remembering Gallipoli, Australians are acting in accordance with the message of the Ode. If Australians remembered battles only because they achieved a purpose, then those who died at the Nek should be forgotten as they died for nothing. If Australians remembered a battle as a triumph of good over evil, then they are imposing morality in war. In such scenarios, the fallen Diggers could be judged as dying for a immoral cause considering they were invading someone else's country. By remembering a battle that was a failure, right or wrong becomes irrelevant.
Because the story of Gallipoli can not be used to glorify freedom or be seen as a triumph of truth, justice and the Australian way, the story forces Australians to remember exactly what the war meant to the Diggers who fought in it.
The last to leave
The guns were silent, and the silent hills
had bowed their grasses to a gentle breeze
I gazed upon the vales and on the rills,
And whispered, "What of these?' and "What of these?
These long forgotten dead with sunken graves,
Some crossless, with unwritten memories
Their only mourners are the moaning waves,
Their only minstrels are the singing trees
And thus I mused and sorrowed wistfully
I watched the place where they had scaled the height,
The height whereon they bled so bitterly
Throughout each day and through each blistered night
I sat there long, and listened - all things listened too
I heard the epics of a thousand trees,
A thousand waves I heard; and then I knew
The waves were very old, the trees were wise:
The dead would be remembered evermore-
The valiant dead that gazed upon the skies,
And slept in great battalions by the shore.
Written by 23-year-old Australian soldier-poet Leon Gellert, a combatant at Gallipoli, to mark the evacuation of the peninsula in 1915.
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da ne beshe kuma nikogash nemase da znam za ova[:D]anyway mene mi se svigashe poemava pa go staviv ova....za textov ne znam kolku e kompetenten ama zato kuma moze da kaze[;)] |
zlotty_co_380 |
Toa sto go napisa RageAngel tocno e , nakratko ima objasneto sto se slucuvalo vo Galipoli , Turcija, pesnata e dobra toj sto ja napisal, ja nemav sretnato do sega, a povejke okolu galiopli moze da najdete na
http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Side-by-side-on-the-shores-of-a-tragic-slaughter/2005/04/25/1114281508549.html?oneclick=true , vo vcerasen vesnik imase se, ako go najdam ke vi go prepisam cel teks , okolu 12 strani bea [:D] |
RaGeAnGeL |
12 strani????se drogirash?????????[:D][:D][:D][:D]ili od toploto ti e[:D][:D][:D][:D]
btw ova go zaborajf....
"War is not a business in which one can take any pride or pleasure. Its horror, its ghastly inefficiency, its unspeakable cruelty and misery has always appalled me." General John Monash
Why remember Gallipoli
"Getting ashore was not that hard. Hanging on, up on that ridge, for eight months - that was hard. The Australians defended absurd positions. They looked after each other. They kept their good humour. There is a cheerfulness in soldiers' letters from Gallipoli one seldom comes upon in letters from France. The food was unspeakable, the flies a plague. [So were] dysentery and lice... The miracle is simply these men didn't lose heart. And they didn't, not even when they knew all was lost and they were creeping away by night, leaving so many dead.
"That, to me, is why we are right to remember Gallipoli. We are surely right to honour them. We are surely right to walk past the political intrigues and the blunders and say Gallipoli says something good about the Australian people and the Australian spirit." Les Carlyon |
Thunder from down under |
quote: Originally posted by OooOo
more info please ... what's ANZAC?
poshle astralancive vo prvata svetska vojna ke se tepale so turcite vo galipoli, i turcite go videle brodot kaj sho idet, i se kacile na nekoja tumba i gi cekale i ko izlegle site ko im vlegle turcite 10,000 avstralianci ispotepale [:D][:D]
e toa e ANZAC Day |
RaGeAnGeL |
hahahahahahaha goce be aman beeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
silijeski |
I za toa sega da se sekirame,za ANZAC day!? |
mafisKumA |
quote: Originally posted by RaGeAnGeL
Australians probably remember Gallipoli because in Australia, mateship is more highly valued than public accolades. The Diggers who returned from the war were not interested in receiving praise for their achievements. All they wanted was to remember their mates whom had fallen. To achieve this aim, they began reciting a paragraph from the poem 'Ode for the Fallen':
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old;
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.
This epitomises the Australian mateship
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zlotty_co_380 |
quote: Originally posted by RaGeAnGeL
12 strani????se drogirash?????????[:D][:D][:D][:D]ili od toploto ti e[:D][:D][:D][:D]
quote: Originally posted by RaGeAnGeL
12 strani????se drogirash?????????[:D][:D][:D][:D]ili od toploto ti e[:D][:D][:D][:D]
Be izgleda i od ladnoto mi e , nemozam da se navikanam, kade odis, sekade razlicno e, denes si vo zima, utre vo leto a zadutre koj znae kade, ko izdrogiran normalno ke bides, a i da go najdam vesnikot ako nemam sto da pravam, togas sigurno ke gi prepisam tie okolu 12 strani, i sto bese najinteresno gi imase na slika vojnicite koj sto se borele, a za niv ke me mrzi da gi skeniram da ti gi pratam site, da gi opulis, mozda nekoj ke ti se bendisaT. [:D] |
RaGeAnGeL |
uh pameten toj lepotan...prashtaj mos ke mi fatiT okovo na nekoj od niv...ili na tebe de..kako bilo[;)] |
Thunder from down under |
za malce pak ke se stepaja, se nalutile turcive mnogu gubre naprajle astralancite [:)]
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kultura avstraliska - ushte malu ke pocneja kriket da igret na grobishta
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[img]http://network.news.com.au/image/0,10114,5002720,00.jpg[/img]
go ostajle gubreto i si zaminale doma - NEKULTURA !
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graf |
lele where is the cleanning contract :) !!! hehehehe |
achtung_panzer |
quote: Originally posted by Thunder from down under
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poshle astralancive vo prvata svetska vojna ke se tepale so turcite vo galipoli, i turcite go videle brodot kaj sho idet, i se kacile na nekoja tumba i gi cekale i ko izlegle site ko im vlegle turcite 10,000 avstralianci ispotepale [:D][:D]
e toa e ANZAC Day
Ah zatoa li se gordeat "Astralancite", demek "gordo" zagubile od kletite Turci- seldzhuci...
Samo ne ja gledam neshto vrskata so Makedonija, zoshto bi ne' bolela glava so anzac? |
mafisKumA |
quote: Originally posted by achtung_panzer
quote: Originally posted by Thunder from down under
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poshle astralancive vo prvata svetska vojna ke se tepale so turcite vo galipoli, i turcite go videle brodot kaj sho idet, i se kacile na nekoja tumba i gi cekale i ko izlegle site ko im vlegle turcite 10,000 avstralianci ispotepale [:D][:D]
e toa e ANZAC Day
Ah zatoa li se gordeat "Astralancite", demek "gordo" zagubile od kletite Turci- seldzhuci...
Samo ne ja gledam neshto vrskata so Makedonija, zoshto bi ne' bolela glava so anzac?
za tije sto zivet u Australia bi trebalo da gi pamtat i da mu se blagodarni na tije sto si go dale zivotot za ova zemja sto ne nas primnala
Today not only do the descendants of the original ANZACs but veterans from all nationalities pay homage to their fallen mates, hence LEST WE FORGET
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